Pastor Hagee no longer opposes gay ordinance

By on August 13, 2013
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Television evangelist and pastor John Hagee on Sunday told congregants — and a national and international audience watching live — that he no longer opposes a proposed ordinance that seeks to protect the rights of gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people in San Antonio.

He read a statement during his Cornerstone Church’s two morning worship services Sunday, reflecting confidence in the latest version of the ordinance, which is expected to go before the City Council on Sept. 5. And he claimed credit for a key wording change that ended his opposition to the measure.

At issue was a clause that would have allowed the council to consider whether candidates for city boards and commissions had discriminated against gay and transgender people in “word or deed” — which opponents saw as an invitation to consider their socially conservative views on homosexuality.

The proposal’s author, Councilman Diego Bernal, removed that language July 25.

“All of the previous language that infringed upon the freedom of speech, the freedom of exercise of religion and the ability for people of faith to serve on City Council has been expunged,” Hagee told the Cornerstone audience, prompting a standing ovation at the first Sunday service.

Many of the other socially conservative local pastors and Christian business owners who raised objections to the original proposal remain opposed to the revised version.

The ordinance’s advocates contend it is an overdue update to protect a vulnerable class of people without negating the rights of others. It would add “gender identity” and “sexual orientation” to the city’s current anti-discrimination policy.

Hagee said he got the city attorney and Bernal to agree to the revisions in writing when they met Tuesday.

Though Bernal said he had made the revisions almost two weeks before that meeting, he said Sunday that the agreement and meeting with Hagee underscored the benefits of respectful dialogue.

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  • John Bouchet

    It is to be expected from a dispensational bigot!

    Dispensationalism is a Babylonian doctrine…(thoroughly jesuit in origin) do the research!

    Hagee supports the Devilish Zionist agenda (a masonic fabrication) that opposes the “Israel of God” the true People of God…

    • http://averyheavystone.blogspot.com/ Marcel in Florida

      If you’re against Zion,your with the dragon and his Islam lie from hell.
      It’s easy to see whose who today ,read Revelation 12.

      • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

        You have a VERY shallow ‘understanding’ of what the poster was trying to say. He is NOT against ‘Zion’, Christ’s future earthly throne, but Marxist-Zionism, which is COMPLETELY different. READ, LEARN, STUDY…

        • Daniel D

          Where do you people come up with stuff? Marxist Zionism! Common man. And if you are referring to “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” it was a made up document by the Czarist Russian Government, a complete fraud. It has nothing to do with the re-establishment if Israel in the holy land. The two are not connected. Are there Zionists who are evil, yes. Are there Zionists who are just, yes. Martin Luther King once said if you are anti-Zionist, it’s synonymic with anti-Semitic/anti-Israel.

          • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

            First of all, outa the gate, you make the LAME-ASS
            ASSumption I am referring to the PEZ. I am most decidedly NOT, so, nice try. And ANYONE who quotes the fraud-plagiarist that was MLK to – AHEM! – ‘support’
            their argument is lofting a giant FAIL balloon into the blogosphere. First of all, I CAN’T be “anti-Semitic” because
            I have NOTHING against Palestinians! Now,
            Zio-Khazar-Frauds who NEVER WERE descendants of the ‘Lost Tribes’, yeah, gotta a HUGE problem with THEM….And “..where [I] get my stuff” is DIRECTLY lifted from the writings, speeches, memoirs, etc. of late 19th and early 20th
            century Z I O N I S T S who were jones’ing for an (illegal) ‘State of Israel’, at the cost of much blood and treasure of OTHER peoples. So, as I said above, dummy, READ, STUDY,
            LEARN.

          • Daniel D

            I am assuming you don’t believe the Jews belong in the land that God promised to them? Also, BTW I am not a fan of MLK either. He was a philanderer but he hit the mark concerning what are anti-Zionists. They always demonize Israel. Also your definition of anti-Semitic is incorrect. It is generally referred to as an anti-Jewish/anti-Israel term and yes I know who Semitic peoples are. Finally, the word Palestinian does not designate an actual race of people or an actual ethnic group.

          • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

            AGAIN (??!) You ASSume WRONG! I DIDN’T say REAL Jews didn’t! Helloooo??? KEEP drinking yer Kool Aid. You COMPLETELY IGNORED the FACT about the Khazars…But, that’s OK, I’m sure bringing THEM up is ….wait for it …. “Anti-Semitic”….

  • sherri james

    i have no idea what this means

    • RS1962

      In simple terms, Hagee (aka Anakin Skywalker) has been turned/admitted to the dark side, in my opinion is where he was been all along.

      • JJNYC

        He never turned, he has been like this forever.

  • Michael-Andrea Brooks

    Hagee is a sell out. All of these mega-church pastors are.

    • rawiron1

      Have you read his book “In Defense of Israel”? You Tube “Hagee denies Jesus is the Messiah”.

      • forgivenman

        That’s rediculous. Read again.

      • Gwen Wiley

        Wrong

    • Gwen Wiley

      No he’s not. This is propaganda at its best. Don’t believe it.

      • JJNYC

        You are spiritually blind.

    • Michael-Andrea Brooks

      Show me his life style, his house, the car he drives, his bank accounts and then I will repent of my statement if I’m wrong.

  • Cobber Campbell

    In 1984 i was a memebr of a Christian church in Perth West Australia w ehad deluges of homosexuals now called gays come to get deliverd from demons of homosexuality and they were set free .So who says they are not spirits as we are warne din the Bible that in the last days gross darkness and evil will cover the earth and they (it) comes from the demonic realm. Just think about it there was no mention of gays 50 years ago so why so many milions today.

    • Barn Cat

      There’s no such thing as a demon of homosexuality. People develop a taste for homosexuality because they’re sinful.

      • JJNYC

        Unfortunately you are incorrect. How about incubus and succubus?

      • Daniel D

        Homosexual behavior is brought on from the demonic realm so I think you misunderstood what he was saying. He was not saying there is a specific demon devoted to homosexuality, rather it was an expression, just as someone would reefer to alcohol as a demon. Any demon would do it’s best to promote any form of wicked behavior it could to further lead you away from Christ.

  • MeeshaWoodstock

    Sad day for those who followed Hagee(I was definitely not one of them)…I pray that they will now see TRUTH that they were indeed following a False Prophet/Teacher.
    http://www.NeedGod.com

  • geri

    Hagee a Zionist Warmonger, he and his Flock of Zionist Sheeple are going straight to Hell, Israel is their GOD, My God is Jesus! He is a Rothschild, Illuminati Schofield Puppet. The Jews Primary Book is the Babylonian Talmud

    • http://averyheavystone.blogspot.com/ Marcel in Florida

      It’s easy to spot the wolves in sheep’s costume ,they are silent when it comes to demonic Islam and have the seed of Jew hate burning in their soul.
      The fact that Rick permits this vitriol speaks a lot about him.
      Nothing to say about the death cult of jihad, but your playing God as judge and your hatred for Israel is the rotten fruit of the dragon, evil.
      Those who side with Israel’s enemies and Islam will be rewarded with their paradise of the false prophet Mohammed.

      • geri

        NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN LEGALLY KILL CHRISTIANS

        Bill Dannemeyer

        U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

        Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians
        for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ! A diabolic deception has
        been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators
        and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil. On March 5,
        1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S.
        Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United
        States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so
        outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American
        people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the
        Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime
        punishable by decapitation by guillotine! On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law.

        Before you respond, “NO, that cannot be – not in our free country!” let me explain.

        The passage of this law,
        HJ Res. 104, is especially troublesome to me because I was a member of
        the U.S. House of Representatives at the time it was passed. Even
        worse, I was in the House Chamber the very day that is was passed,
        voting on other legislation. Yet I, as a U.S. Congressman, had NO
        KNOWLEDGE that it had been passed or even that it was to be brought up
        for a vote.

        How could this be? How
        could the deception be so pervasive that those of us who had sworn to
        uphold our country’s Constitution, particularly those of us (few,
        indeed) who really took our position seriously as the protectors of the
        people, could be totally in the dark regarding the content of this
        bill and its passage by the leaders of this country – by treachery and
        deceit?

        • geri

          The Noahide Laws have nothing to do
          with Noah, or Adam or God. In about 1600 B.C. God directed Noah to
          build an ark and save his family and the animal population of the world
          from the flood which destroyed life on the surface of the earth.

          Over one thousand years later,
          in 586 BC, during the Babylonian captivity, diabolical laws were
          developed by the Pharisees and Jewish Rabbis who sought to title these
          laws with a name that would give them legitimacy.

          The purpose of the Jews in
          developing the Noahide Laws is to rule over all of the non-Jews in the
          world without having to suffer a mass conversion of these people to
          Judaism which they fear would dilute the cultural cohesion of the
          Jewish population.

          The Rabbis who produced the
          Talmud and the Noahide Laws claim that the Noahide Laws are the
          universal way of reaching God even though they privately state the
          Noahide Laws are only for the “Gentiles.” Behind this false claim is
          the true belief of the Rabbis that it is the means whereby the Rabbis are seen as God and are to be worshiped as God by the “Gentiles.”

          The Noahide Laws are to become the national, though undeclared, religion of America.
          The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits Congress from
          passing a law which establishes a religion for the United States of
          America. If another 9-11 type “terrorist” incident takes place, and
          Martial Law is declared, it is likely that the claim would be made that
          since the Noahide Laws have been recognized by Congress as the “basis
          of our civilization” and that according to the third Noahide Law,
          anyone who worships Jesus Christ violates this law, he or she may be
          characterized as a terrorist. Then the Talmudic penalty for violating
          any of the Noahide Laws, namely decapitation, would be enforced.

          No American should
          underestimate the ferocity of the commitment of the Zionist Jews to
          control the entire political system of the world through the One World
          Government now being created, and in so doing administer “Justice” as they define it.

          The main goal of the
          Zionist Jews and their New World Order is exactly the same as it was
          when Jesus was on earth – to exterminate Christ – and His followers!
          Nothing has changed. Keep Supporting the Synagouge of Satan, Jews made this law the World Religion of Lucifer

          • geri

            The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible world order (One World Government) immediately preceding the “universal reign of the Talmud.” A terrifying prospect, indeed!

            These provisions of the Talmud, the
            same Talmud that is the source of the Noahide laws, make very clear why
            the proponents of HJ Res. 104 used the subterfuge of obtaining the
            passage of this legislation without any debate or a recorded vote. HJ
            Res. 104 was fraudulently and deceitfully passed by “unanimous consent” when
            no one was around to consider and discuss the provisions of the
            Talmud. If these had been brought to the attention of the members of
            Congress, HJ Res. 104 would never have been passed.

            The Chabad Lubavitch falsely claims
            that God gave the Seven Noahide Laws at Mt. Sinai with the intention
            that the Children of Israel should keep them and teach them to the
            Gentiles. This is a deliberate lie!

            There is absolutely no support in the Bible for this fraudulent claim.

            The Source of these Seven Noahide Laws was NOT, as
            the Jews have claimed, directions from God to Adam – or Noah – or
            Moses. Their source is the Oral Traditions of the Pharisees that began
            in Babylon after the Israelites were captured in 586 BC.

            Over 600 years later, after the Pharisees had
            killed Christ and the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, these
            Oral Traditions were written down and became the Babylonian Talmud. The Jewish Talmud Hates All Gentiles, Jesus and Mary

          • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

            Kinda gives a guy the Hebe-y jeebies, doesn’t it??!

      • JJNYC

        SMH There is a difference between someone who “hates” Jews/Israel and who “hates” Zionism. Do your education and stop making biased comments.

    • Drdetroitdanchap

      In the bible the Jews BRAG about how they parasitically controlled Egypt AND Babylon. The bible clearly tells how Abraham twice “pimped” his own wife for monetary gain from Kings of GOOD character. Then ignorant people say one is wrong to talk about Jews controlling things. TRY READING THE BIBLE, the jews BRAG about it, insinuating themselves into positions of power is part of their culture.
      The Jews want to rebuild their “temple” so they can return to ANIMAL/BLOOD sacrifices, where they smear the blood of the animal all over and burn the corpse for a “PLEASING ODOR onto the lord”. The Jews worship a WAR god.
      Isreal worships a WAR god. Christians have no business supporting or associating with WAR god worshipers. The only Jews Christians should embrace are those Jews who see the LIGHT and convert. WAR god followers do not embrace PEACE.
      “Judeo-Christian” is an OXYMORON. WAR-God vs PEACE-God. The Old Testament followers worship a WAR GOD and spend their lives hating, reliving every imagined slight, and dreaming of VENGENCE ….. “NEVER FORGIVE and NEVER FORGET” …. they still go on about Egypt and Babylon after MILLENIA. New Testament followers (are supposed to) worship a loving, forgiving God, and to CLOSE the Old Testament, as it has been FULLFILLED by the Crucifixion of Jesus. If you are following the OLD Testament you ARE NOT and CANNOT be a CHRISTian.
      “ANTI-Christ” does not get any greater then to CRUCIFY HIM, send agents (Saul of Tarsus and many others) to kill his followers, and then instigate POGROMS against the early Christians. Judaism IS the ANTI-CHRIST.

      • geri

        Agree with you, The Enemy is The Zionists and Talmudic Jews, They Control Washington DC, the Noahide Laws PROVE IT! Jesus will be IDOL Worship, the Guillotines are here in the USA, Revelation Tells us we will be be-headed, Now we Know Who will do it!!

    • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

      As in TalMUD. To quote Andy “I KILLED the bank!” Jackson, all of the above is “orl korrect”….That fat-assed balloon monster is gonna POP! in the Lake…

  • rawiron1
  • jim T

    One more A A Allen or Jimmy Swagart situation here. This time its the bend over backwards to accommodate sinful lifestyles all in the name of tolerance. Hagee once preached holiness and separation from wicked lifestyle choices, now he’s just one of the crowd. The TV preacher crowd that enables sinful lifestyle choices and refuses to preach the whole truth of the Bible for fear of offended people and falling out of grace in the eyes of john Q public.

    • John

      Shame on you Pastor Hagee! I hope you repent of your sin before its too late, and lead your people into the truth of God’s Word!

  • DemolitionMan57

    I wonder who got to him. Who “threatened” him. Although one still needs to stand strong in one’s beliefs no matter the threat. Apparently he chose the world over the word. How sad. So the “great sifting” continues.

    • JJNYC

      No one threatened him…

  • Gwen Wiley

    This is a lie, flat out. You are twisting Pastor Hagee’s words.

    • JJNYC

      You are spiritually blind

    • Bruce Hood

      The Pastor is used to it……usually its antisemitic alleged Christians and now this……

    • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

      Nice try, Gwen. The Fat Dipshit doesn’t even realize that he is standing IN FRONT OF one of the MOST satanic and occult signs there is…OR, he DOES> Either way, YOU defend a FRAUD. Baaaaa, baaaaaaaa, baaa, baaaaa, baaa, baaaa, baaaa!!

  • Barn Cat

    So did Hagee change his mind or is he being blackmailed by someone who knows something? Does the NSA provide information for the right people for blackmail purposes?

    • JJNYC

      He’s a reprobate. Period

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/ghosty426 Hughy Lewis

    By their fruits you shall know them.

  • Bruce Hood

    Why do you not want gay people to be free in a free country? You “Christians” are no better then the Taliban.

    • RS1962

      No better, but vastly different. Gays are free! Free to choose their lifestyle.

      Christians follow a different set of rules given by the God of Heaven, Who, by the way, homosexuals will stand before, and be judged, along with the homosexuals/sodomites of Sodom and Gomorrah. The good part is, they still have time, while they are alive, to alter their behavior, and get the free gift of eternal life by coming to the Lord Jesus Christ in repentance. For some it is a hard pill to swallow, because pride and sometimes arrogance gets in the way. I will pray for you……….

      • J.

        There’s a storm a’coming…STAY IN THE ARK AND THE SALVATION OF JESUS. He that endures to the end shall be saved. Repent and live holy through Him. Listen to what the spirit says to the church.

        • RS1962

          Amen J.

    • Linda

      The ‘gay’ people ARE in bondage; are not ‘free’, no matter what country they are in. We ‘Christians’ are here to be ‘the light of the world’, to expose the deadly and diabolical errors that threaten and devour souls and point you to Jesus Christ as your only Hope, Salvation and LIFE. Whether you or ‘gays’ like to experience the TRUTH concerning your sin and peril cannot matter to us, because YOUR souls are at stake. Better you should hate us for resisting the evils you are willing to indulge to your own destruction, than for us to submit to gutless fear of not having your approval or accolades and stand idly by while you sin your way to hell.
      We who are not ‘gay’ have the right and an obligation to demand a decent and morally sound society in which to live. Homosexuality is CORRUPTION of the REPROBATE category. We do not allow raw sewage to coarse through our streets and we will NOT allow the foulness of sodomy to be celebrated and practiced in our streets either. If you and ‘gays’ want a society as foul and corrupt as you are, go establish yourselves one. I hear Sodom and Gomorrah have lots of openings for new residents.

      • Bruce Hood

        I am a born again Christian who has enough on my plate struggling with my own sin to struggle against yours. God lets people go to hell….He doesn’t like it but he does. You cannot legislate salvation. You are imposing your beliefs on other people who don’t believe. I am sure you would not like having another s beliefs imposed on you.

        • Linda

          Point out to me, please, where I invited you to ‘struggle against’ my ‘sin’. You talk like one who knows ‘religion’ rather than one who knows Christ! For instance, instead of weak and sinful you (who was crucified with Christ) struggling with your own sin, why don’t you look to Christ to be your Life and Strength? For another instance, God does not ‘let’ people go to hell. People CHOOSE ‘life or death’. My Master, Jesus Christ, offers LIFE to all. But the ‘dead’ do not know the TRUTH, that they can CHOOSE LIFE in Christ, unless WE who have entered into His LIFE tell them.
          I don’t say to ‘legislate salvation’. These man-made ‘governments’ are anti-Christ who IMPOSE satan’s wickedness on God’s creation. Damn right I will RESIST the evil. That’s one of the little things WE who are called by Christ’s Name are expected to do. Furthermore, if Christ truly reigns in our hearts, we cannot but confront and resist the evil wherever it shows its ugliness. I CHOOSE LIFE in Christ and I will not passively stroke my ‘sinful self’ while His enemies corrupt and destroy what belongs to Him.
          Those on the road to help sure don’t need your help paving the way for them. And why will you aid and abet satan in IMPOSING reprobate laws coddling reprobates and their reprobate behaviour? I see no sign of ‘born again Christian’ in anything you have said. You parrot your Judaized teachers. You are in as much danger as the ‘gays’ for claiming Christ, yet not hearing or submitting to His Voice. Repentance is the answer for your sin.

          • Bruce Hood

            What about making divorce illegal? I must say the height of the horse your sitting on is very impressive. You can see from your place on high that I am unsaved because I choose to not want to stone gays? Talk about judaizers you take the cake. Were you hateful before you became a Christian?

          • Linda

            I had nothing to do with making divorce legal. Why do you side-wind? Scripture says God hates divorce but in cases of fornication/infidelity, He permits it. Matthew 19:9 Who said anything about ‘stoning gays’? Again, you talk like a side-winder, like a worldling.

            My ‘horse’ is Matthew 7:16 & 20.You talk like a worldling, ergo you think like a worldling, ergo your ‘fruits’ persuade me to at least question your claim to be a ‘born again Christian’. Nothing you have said on this thread grants the slightest hint of ‘fruits’ to suggest you are a ‘born again Christian’. You reason and talk like the world. You do not express the mind of Christ on anything discussed here. I refer you to Romans 1 where you may get a glimpse into the mind of Christ expressed through the apostle Paul on the issue of ‘reprobates’ and ‘homosexuality’.
            You hate me because I tell you the Truth and you do not want to give up your ‘sovereignty’ to rule by your own opinions rather than submit to the Word of God. You do not love enough to tell a homosexual their sin separates them from God, but if they repent and give themselves up as dead so that Christ may be their Life, the will be received as a son by God. You are too wrapped up in your own sins to sacrifice a real concern for a soul on its way to hell. That is ‘hatred’.

          • Bruce Hood

            I don’t hate you….you hate me. I understand what sin is, the difference is that you think you live in a theocracy and you do not….How would you like to live in a country that required you to eat meat sacrificed to idols? I am saying this is not a Christian country if your not a Christian.

          • Linda

            I did not say that you hate me. But to accommodate or defend an abomination, whether homosexuality, abortion, etc., and not call it what it is, is to ‘hate’ God’s Law and to ‘hate’ the souls who practice such abominations. The ‘righteous’ in Christ are the ‘light of the world’ by which light, sinners may see their sin as sin and that there is a God to Whom they shall give account; that they might repent (turn to Christ) from their sin and live for Him ever after. “How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?…So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” Romans 10:14 &17

            In this particular instance, if Christians accommodate homosexuality and do not speak the Truth of God to those who practice such sins, WE who know the Truth but do not tell it, lest we be slandered as ‘haters’ or ‘homophobes’, prove that we are just as SELF-ish and carnal as those who indulge such sins of the flesh as sodomy. (Fearing men more than revering God and loving our own flesh more than those souls who are in peril of eternal damnation.) THAT is ‘hatred’.

            Nor have I said that I hate you. I merely call you on your claim to be a ‘born again Christian’ while failing to furnish any evidence/fruit to indicate that you actually submit to Christ and His Word. I say you speak like a worldling because you speak like a worldling. If my telling the Truth spells ‘hate’ to you, then it’s the Truth you have a problem with, regardless of who presents you with it.

            You are wrong about the country I live in. I may be ‘in’ this world by virtue of being in a mortal body, but I am not ‘of’ this world, but am a true citizen of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. I live by His Kingdom Rule, not by the ungodly anti-Christ imposters posing as ‘governments’. The whole earth belongs to Christ the King and, as His servant, I represent Christ’s Lawful claim to all, regardless of what patch of dirt I happen to physically occupy.

            The body of Christ quickly became Judaized and Romanized, which Paul warned would happen after his departure, and said there were already ‘false brethren’ infiltrating the assemblies of Christ, to pervert the Truth and draw Christians away from the Truth, to follow mere men. Over the last 2000 years, true Christianity has been buried under a whorish imposter version which has deceived most who are oblivious to the worldly shallowness and values they adhere to.

            Throughout the generations there has always been a mere remnant of Christians who could not be content with the false ‘churchianity’; believers whose hearts hungered for real relationship with God, and they have been led by this call of the Holy Spirit in their spirit, to COME OUT OF HER (Revelation 18:4), and to set their hearts to know God in Spirit and in Truth. (John 4:23) These are the ones the world hates because these have been undergoing real transformation so that it is the Truth of God Who rules them from within and He IS their Reality. These will speak the Truth regardless of who likes or hates them for it.

            Having been convicted and taught and changed by the work of the Holy Spirit, I cannot and will not accommodate abominations, but will speak God’s Word against them. I don’t expect to be popular with the world for refusing to be silent or to give ‘the nod’ to the wickedness practiced in it. I have the Word of Christ that: “If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.” John 15:18-19
            It is natural for ‘the world’ to hate me for condemning homosexuality as an abomination. It is inordinate for one who claims to be a ‘born again Christian’ to advocate on behalf of conduct specifically condemned by God as abomination. Perhaps you see now why I question your ‘born again-ness’?

          • RS1962

            Divorce is not a sin unless the parties marry again while the x spouse is alive. Sodomy/homosexuality IS a sin and is condemned by the God of the Bible. If I have learned one thing, that thing is: “You can lead a sheep to knowledge, but you can’t make them think.” <- thanks to Dave Hodges. Also, if you choose not to 'stone gays' IE 'condone their behavior' you risk eternal separation from God, in a cold lonely place FOREVER! Choose wisely.

          • disqus_xp4GYx7DZk

            Um…it’s NOT THAT cold!

          • Bruce Hood

            what about masturbation? Illegal? I am glad I have found such wisdom in this thread….I didn’t know Christ only died for certain sins and that we should codify Leviticus as American law. This is a free country for everyone not just you

          • Linda

            ‘Illegal’ is a man-crafted terminology which distorts and confounds justice. The Commandments of God deal with righteousness and sin, not with ‘legal and illegal’. God’s Law is communicated by Scripture and the Witness of His Spirit convicting us of what is righteous and what is sin.

            ‘Statutes’ and ‘regulations’ devised by man can quickly transform a Lawful act into an ‘illegal’ one or conversely, an unlawful act into a ‘legal’ one. For instance, it is Lawful for man and woman to marry, however, a ‘statute’ demands application for a ‘marriage license’ to make it ‘legal’. We can see how unreliable man’s ‘laws’ are when they invent another institution called ‘common law relationship’ to accommodate ‘illegal’ marriages.

            Fishing and hunting and travelling are all Lawful, however, men’s statutes and ordinances demand application for licenses, otherwise, your Lawful activity is deemed ‘illegal’ and a ‘crime’. ‘Abortion’ is unlawful, but with the flick of a pen, men have made the killing of the unborn ‘legal’.

            ‘Legal’ pertains to ‘corporations’, whereas people possess conscience capable of conviction and morality. The Law of God pertains to people’s ‘sin’, whereas the laws of men pertain to ‘illegal’ ‘crimes’. When ‘people’ adopt the ‘legal/illegal’ system fabricated by men, rather than submit to the moral Law of God pertaining to righteousness and sin, those people identify themselves as idolators; bowing to other fallible mortals, rather than freely submitting to God as their only Law Giver.

            While this Godless society perceives masturbation as ‘legal’, the Law of God exposes it as a sin acted out according to the ‘lusts of the flesh’, ‘self-gratification’.
            Once again you produce the ‘fruits’ of a worldling; one to whom God and His Law are Strangers. If you had been walking with Him and allowing Him to be your Teacher, your perception of all the MORAL issues you have mentioned, would convey God’s wisdom rather than the foolishness of this world.

            Christ indeed took ALL sin upon Himself and died for ALL. However, again, it is apparent that you do not follow Him, or else you would have known that: “Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of [his] time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.” I Peter 4:1-2

            In other words, a truly born again child of God, indwelt by His Holy Spirit, is undergoing the transformation from the ‘old man of sin’ into the Likeness of Christ. Therefore, as he lives with and in Christ, he no longer practices the sins he formerly practiced, but manifests the reality that he is indeed a ‘new creature created in Christ Jesus’.

            Christ died for our sins to deliver us from bondage to sin, not so we would go on in bondage to sin to commit more sins. He told the woman caught in the act of adultery, “Go and SIN NO MORE.”…even if man’s governments tell you it’s ‘legal’ to sin.

          • Kevin Pendleton

            Linda and Billy just because Pastor Hagee didn’t come out with guns blasting didn’t have one bit of proof that the Pastor supports the bill. He was able to get it , the wording, changed so that “CHRISTIANS” can run for city council of San Antonio. IF words had remained as originally posted then to preach against the lifestyle would be automatic grounds to stop a preacher from the position of city council.
            Linda your speach has protrayed your own heart and soul.
            TOUCH NOT MY ANNOINTED AND DO MY PROPHETS NO HARM. If you have problems with the preacher PRAY not put your opinionated hate onthe iinternet. Christians are the biggest problem of Christians. No one demonination is totally correct and totally right on Christianity.

          • Linda

            No, Kevin, you’re right. What it means is that Hagee, as with all other 501C state whores is only doing what he must to preserve his ‘non-taxable status’. You cannot avoid the fact that Hagee and his fellow state butt-kissers, ‘bend, fold and mutilate’ their so called ‘Christian’ position on such issues as legalizing sexual abominations, because they ‘fear’ the state, or in more than a few cases, work in collusion with satanic states against Christ and the Law of His Kingdom. However way you word your defence of Hagee in such matters, the fact remains that he accommodates the ‘rules’ dictated by Christ’s enemies.
            No ‘guns’ are needed. But we don’t see Hagee wielding the Sword of the Spirit, talking Christ’s language, trusting or demonstrating the Authority of His Word. The ‘fat man’ enjoys a ‘fame’ in the sight of the worldlings; opportunities to ‘be Christ’ to the lost and the heathens, but instead, he ‘blends in’ with them.
            As so many other Christians, you erroneously assume that Christ wants His people to join anti-Christ ‘governments’, believing that Christ seeks to ‘transform’ these satanic institutions into ‘the Kingdom of our God’, ‘from within’. See in the Scriptures that these ‘governments’ are to be done away with. Those who are a part of ‘this world’s governments’ must ‘Come out’; must conform to and submit to the Government of Christ.
            Men like Hagee who proffer themselves as ‘servants of Jesus Christ, yet conform and submit to the rules and regulations of anti-Christ governments, expose themselves as either false leaders working for satan to lead Christ’s people into satanic bondage, or they are deceived dupes clinging to an preaching false doctrines they were taught. Either way, they are NOT serving Jesus Christ and none of us should be following them, or defending either their treachery or their stupidity.

  • Boni Biggun

    Hagee is COMPROMISED! First off his “ministry” is in a contract with satan via the 501c3! Secondly, he had a know NWO luciferian speak at his church, Newt Gingrich! We shall know the faithful by the fruits of the Spirit!

  • patou

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? I thought the bible says << u break one commandment u are guilty of breaking them all?

  • Drdetroitdanchap

    My “gaydar” screams a warning everytime I see that fat little POOP.

    The “rapture” Prophets for PROFIT are ANTI-Christ DEATH CULTISTS. God/Jesus put you in this LIFE to learn “soul lessons”, to increase your consciousness to the point of Redemption. Hagee and his Ilk REJECT the LIFE God gave you, and dangle a “shortcut” in front of people, just as SATAN dangled Temptation in front of Jesus. Do not follow the ANTI-Christ lies of FALSE prophets. Their “shortcut” of cheating God’s lessons does NOT lead to Heaven, any more than cheating on school work teaches you the subject. Hagee, Robertson, the whole group, do NOT believe in anything except the MONEY they collect for leading their Flocks astray.

  • YosemiteSamson

    Hagee’s unrepentant sin, as a head of household, preempts him from moral authority in gender issues, as his wife is a senior pastor, in plain violation of 1 Tim 2. He will never appoint you, as an authority over me, ma’am.

    After thorough studies of queer literature and countless dialogs, I do not agree with the methods of Westboro, but do agree with their sayings, so far.

    If there is an exception to the rule, I have never found it in all of my years of dealing with these people.

  • Shooty McBang

    The first ass that is gonna get kicked when Jesus makes it back this way is the ass of the pulpit. Good on him is all that I can say. I wouldn’t touch any of’em with an ugly stick!

  • John Bouchet

    Hagee; says ‘Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah’ That statement is in denial of the prophets.. see; Isaiah 53
    He is denying the Words of Jesus Himself Jn4:25,26

    The man is a thorough heretic, brainwashed into believing his own lies as truth!

  • Lannyboy

    Jesus warned that in the time of the end, “Many will come in my name, saying, “I am he!’, and they will lead many astray.” (Mark 13:6,RSV,1952) Hagee is a false prophet as is Newt Gingrich and Obama. Both Gingrich and Obama have stated that they are “Christians”, yet they support the defiling passion of homosexuality. They are NOT true followers of the “doctrine of Christ”. They practice and preach liberal humanist philosophy, humanitarianism, and false pagan traditions.

    • Shooty McBang

      With all due respect to your comment, because I happen to favor it. But, I never allow myself to miss an opportunity to point out that Newt Gingrich and Obama are, each in their own right, “Skanks du jur”. They have proved that their traitorous opinions are not worthy of “diddly freakin” squat”.

  • Dana Webb

    It would appear to me has been persuaded by some type of infidelity
    in his life by the money changers, I’m sure he is used to a modest living standard.

  • Dana Webb

    It would appear to me has been persuaded by some type of infidelity
    in his life by the money changers, I’m sure he is used to a modest living standard.

  • Rebekah Moore

    I believe the writer of this article would benefit more by reading the WORD OF GOD and going to JESUS and becoming an intercessor rather than slandering and twisting the motives and intentions of servants of God. JESUS never told us to look at what is wrong but HE calls us from our ways to follow HIM for JESUS is the WAY.

  • rbd171

    So ignorant, unevolved, religious asshats can continue to populate govt positions but evolved non bible thumping people are hampered in weeding out the jerks.

    The media and Hagee spin the news like he has influence on policy. They act like other people’s freedom is an infringement on their right to discriminate and hate.

    My son recently came back from his second EOD tour in Afghanistan. At his young age, he managed to evolve. Christian rhetoric disgusts him. He sees many Christians as “one bomb away from being a terrorist”. I agree.

    • Linda

      I agree with you and your son that, at least for the ‘visible’ frauds who claim to be ‘Christians’, and either knowingly or unwittingly, support the ‘terrorists’ running the U.S.A. in sending theirs and other American children half way around the world to kill and be killed, and for what? No foreign state ever threatened the rights and liberties of Americans in America! Only the ‘enemies within’ have been stripping Americans of rights and freedoms, while your son and so many other children sacrifice so much to do nothing more than secure the unlawful claims of powerful corporations to the minerals and treasures of those falsely vilified foreign lands.
      It is those ‘enemies within’ occupying the seats of political and economic power in America who are making foreign enemies and throwing your children into the fray. And it’s false ‘Christians’ like Hagee who beat the drums of war for the state and corporations, among the sheeple who haven’t learned to hear or follow the Good Shepherd.
      Americans should keep their children at home and let the politicians and the corporate kings they work for do their own dirty work and die in the lands they targeted for robbery and rape.
      I thank God you have your son back and I pray that he and your family heal, day by day, from the deep wounds you’ve all suffered.