Trunews’ Rick Wiles Chastises Religious Right Leaders for Endorsing Glenn Beck’s Bizarre Man in the Moon Event

By on July 12, 2013

Trunews radio host Rick Wiles chastised prominent members of the Religious Right for endorsing Mormon Glenn Beck’s recent Man in the Moon event. Approximately 18,000 people attended the three-day event held at the USANA Amphitheater near Salt Lake City, Utah.

Over the Fourth of July weekend, Mr. Beck’s entertainment company put on an elaborate but bizarre outdoor spectacle. It was billed as the Man in the Moon. Mr. Beck himself played the role of the Man in the Moon who told the history of the world as seen from the moon watching the Earth over the ages. The event dazzled the eyes of the adoring fans with high definition video projections, live dancers, aerial performers, a massive robot, and pyrotechnics.

“If 18,000 people want to give Mr. Beck money to watch him pretend to be the man in the moon, that’s their business. Mr. Beck is first and foremost a showman. My business is to defend the ancient Christian faith delivered to the Apostles. I am first and foremost a preacher of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God,” said Mr. Wiles.

The Trunews radio host said it is his responsibility to remind Christians that Mr. Beck openly declares his belief in the Book of Mormon. “Evangelical Christian leaders who endorse him are guilty of spiritual malfeasance in office,” said Mr. Wiles. “The blurring of the lines between orthodox Christianity, Mormonism, and the libertarian political movement is another sign of the deepening apostasy in the American church today.”

Mr. Wiles devoted an entire one-hour program on Wednesday July 10 to discussing the spiritual significance of a deepening apostasy in the American Evangelical church community. founder Bill Keller and Trunews’ CFO Pastor Chris Steinle participated in the roundtable discussion.

The Trunews radio host described Glenn Beck as “the world’s first Mormon televangelist who is introducing American Christians to Mormonism’s bizarre beliefs.” Mr. Wiles said, “Sadly, Mr. Beck is receiving assistance from Christian leaders who ought to know better. Shame on them!”

Christian historian David Barton addressed the audience from the stage of the Man in the Moon event. Seattle pastor and former NFL linebacker Ken Hutchinson also spoke to the crowd. Bill Keller noted that Dave Barton is a board member of Mr. Beck’s nonprofit foundation Mercury One.

Wiles said one of the most troubling aspects of the Beck extravaganza was the participation of 12 Liberty University students. According to news reports, historical artifacts on display included Mormon founder Joseph Smith’s pocket watch, and the first edition of the Book of Mormon, the Mormon Doctrine and Covenants, and the Mormon Pearl of Great Price. There was one Liberty student assigned as a guide for each of the museum’s 12 thematically arranged stations.

Mr. Wiles said he was “appalled that Liberty University officials would dispatch Christian students to participate in Glenn Beck’s travelling road show highlighting artifacts from the Mormon cult.”

“It is bad enough that thousands of people paraded through the traveling circus-like freak show to look at Mormon artifacts. What is shocking is that they were greeted by young Liberty University students,” lamented Mr. Wiles.

The Trunews host admonished Rev. Jerry Falwell Jr. for spiritually polluting the souls of the students they sent to Glenn Beck’s event. “Jerry Falwell Jr. should repent before God for the sin of contaminating the souls of Christian students placed in their care by Christian families for a Christ-centered education,” said Mr. Wiles. “What in the world was Rev. Falwell thinking when he sent Liberty students to Mr. Beck’s Mormon traveling circus?” he asked.

Bill Keller added, “The Liberty University students should have been on the streets witnessing to people about the Mormon cult.”

The Trunews radio panel also discussed the link between the libertarian political movement and same-sex marriage. The panelists noted that many libertarians in the Republican Party support same-sex marriage rights. Rick Wiles cited several on-air quotes by Glenn Beck stating that he does not think same-sex marriage is a threat to the United States.

“The Evangelical leaders who are endorsing Mr. Beck as a born again Christian are compromising the integrity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. All Bible-believing Christians must hold them accountable in a loving way,” said Mr. Wiles.

The Trunews host said he continues to pray for Glenn Beck to be spiritually delivered from Mormonism. “As long as Mr. Beck continues to publicly espouse his belief in the Book of Mormon, no responsible Christian leader should share a platform with him. He must first renounce Mormonism,” said Wiles.

“What if Mr. Beck declared the Islamic Koran or the Hindu Bhagavad Gita to be sacred scriptures given to mankind by God? Would Dave Barton, Ken Hutchinson, and Jerry Falwell Jr. still endorse him? The Book of Mormon is from satanic origins just as much as the Koran and Bhagavad Gita,” stated the radio host. “All three texts will guide souls to Hell.”

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  • Graham Ambrose

    If the Book of Mormon contains a powerful witness of the risen Lord, along with sublime preachments of what it means to be a true Christian, how, in fact, does the book “guide a soul to Hell”?

    • Alstor

      By teaching that men can become God. By teaching that Jesus is not God. By teaching that Jesus was a created spirit like all other men …. which means he could never be the saviour of the World (for he is like man and can never be clean on his own accord). This directly contradicts the New Testament. By denying the divinity of Jesus, Mormons have denied Christ and have accepted another Gospel.
      John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
      9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.

      • RicePudding47

        Alstor, you wrote as to why the Book of Mormon guides a soul to Hell: “By teaching that men can become God.” If you look to the Bible itself, there are many scriptures that indicate that very idea. Here are a few of the most memorable (KJB):

        – Genesis 3:22. And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil.

        – Matthew 5:48. Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

        – John 10:

        31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

        32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

        33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

        34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

        – Romans 8:

        16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

        7 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

        Granted, you may interpret these citations as allegorical. That is your privilege. By the same token, it is my privilege—and testimony—to take them at face value: literally.

        • DW Hignite

          Gen 3:22 confirms the trinity aspect, as God speaks to self as he ushers Adam out of his heaven (Garden of Eden). Your mention to Mathew 5:48 would make better logic to you; if you apply a concept, Paul termed as
          “Rightly Dividing the WORD”,( 2 Timothy 2:15) by doing so, you would instantly group Mathew 5:43-48. Then it simply means; love thy neighbor, be good children and perfect in the faith.

          What was the reason that for the Jews to stone Jesus in John 10:31? Had you understood how to rightly divide the word of God you might have included John 10:30, which represent reasons for why Legalistic Jews was being
          so harsh. You either left out the 30th verse because it validates something conflicting to your belief, or you believed the Jews randomly started throwing stones for no reason. The Jews begin to stone God (Jesus) because he declared; that he and the Father are ONE in a singular sense.

          John 10:30 (GNV) I and my Father are one.

          Ironically you used John 10:34 …… “Has it not been written in your Law, I said, you are gods’? Can you point out any “Mosaic Laws” that teaches this?

          No; you cannot; no such LAW ever existed then or today. Considering; he was speaking to Pharisees and practitioners of the LAW. Jesus was openly mocking them for not knowing his WORD. God’s sarcasm is very relevant; if you continue to read verses 35 &36.

          A hint Romans 8 and for that matter any book God used Paul to write will never make a case for your legalist journey as he escaped legalism being the Champion of Judaism; he understands legalism and their
          works very well.

          Have you looked at Isaiah (43:10; 44:6,8)? They declare there is but one GOD!

          (Psalm 90:2; Isaiah 57:15)These Scripture validate God has always been God.

          Question; Do you believe that the book of “Mormon” was transmitted to you by the power of God? If so, please explain.

          Also what is the penalty for a Prophet of God who fails?

          And lastly do you want your sins to be truly forgiven and have an abundance of life?

        • Dustin Scott Files

          The book of Mormons teaches that JESUS and Lucifer are brothers? The book of Mormons translation has no backing what so ever. The book of Mormons teaches pagan ideas that can not be refuted. It teaches that a man can be a god when he dies and create other planets and be their god? Was this not the lie of the serpent in the garden? The book of Mormons gives Joseph Smith equal footing if not more footing than Jesus himself. Joseph Smith is your judge not GOD or JESUS? There is so much other false and pagan and radically satanic ideas in the book of Mormons. The only people that try to claim it as GOD’s word is deceivers in the Later day Saints or some person who claims to be Mormon and has actually never read the book of Mormons or the Holy Bible.

    • artistk

      Hey Graham, put the book of mormon down and read the Bible.

      • RicePudding47

        Please don’t smack me on the cheek with declaratives. I already read both books. So help me understand, as a committed member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as to why I should not read the Book of Mormon.

        • DW Hignite

          The Bible has no contradictions.Do you agree?

          Mormon 9:19 And if there were amiracles wrought then, why has God ceased to be a God of miracles and yet be an unchangeable Being? And behold, I say unto you he bchangeth not; if so he would cease to be God; and he ceaseth not to be God, and is a God of miracles.

          Yet Mormon Doctrines states God is increasing in knowledge, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 120)

          Which is correct?

          Same Note Alma 22:9 states God is a Spirit

          “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens…I say, if you were to see him to-day, you would see him like a man in form — like yourselves, in all the person, image, and very form as a man….it is necessary that we should understand the character and being of God, and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the veil, so that you may see….and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).

          These inconsistencies in Joseph Smith are huge. But not one inconsistency exist in the Bible. Why do you believe in another gospel . By a man that has double standards, numerous failed prophecies and thought Quakers lived on the moon for a 1000 years?

          The Bible warn us about Joseph Smith:

          “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another [there could not be another gospel]; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” (Gal. 1:6-8)

          • RicePudding47

            DW… You stated that “God is increasing in knowledge,” as stated by Joseph Smith in the Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.120.

            Would you please give me the full quote. It contradicts my understanding of God. If I understand the word omniscient, it means that God is all-knowing. If that be the case, why would He be increasing in knowledge?


    • DW Hignite

      Authenticity is very relevant; being a
      former atheist, I sit down and discerned every religion; then after seeing the
      Christian faith as one that provided more truths in history and science; I
      became one. After that I had to discern between those that proclaimed and those
      that simply failed the acid test of what the New Testament presented as the
      guide from which I would build my faith. Immediately Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses,
      Scientology and Unity church all had similar issues and demands pulled the
      believer away from “Grace”. This was done by studying the roots or founders. Since Christianity was founded by God; through
      his earthy self; known as Jesus who gave his life for the sins of the world
      with the only precept for eternal life, was “Belief”. So who would rob me of this and have me work
      for my salvation to prove my worth to none other than men. Joseph Smith
      (Mormon), Charles T. Russell (JW), Mary Baker
      Eddy(Scientology) & Charles
      Fillmore (Unity) from each all 4 founders call attention to self over
      Jesus. You being a Mormon can experience this quickly; go open you book and
      read who it is dedicated to. Here are examples of issues that caused me to
      easily kick these 4 to the side. Since you are Mormon I contend that as a
      former atheist; that Joseph Smith elevated himself above God, in writing a book
      that is defended changed attitudes, failed prophecies, Racism about black
      people, and suggesting there is no “Salvation” without Joseph Smith a self-proclaimed
      prophet of God.

      I would suggest that indeed Joseph
      Smith was a head of his time in regards to the “postmodernist” views that cover
      our governmental landscape and demeanor of a nation that is accepting “Sin” and
      denying the pending slavery for embracing it.
      Faith comes by hearing about Jesus; Salvation is not earned it is
      accepted from faith through Grace. Why follow failed hopes of a man?

      • RicePudding47

        I don’t know why Christians in general continue to insist on being saved by grace alone when James, the brother of Jesus, proclaims otherwise:

        James 2:

        17 Even so a faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

        18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

        19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils
        also believe, and tremble.

        20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

        Granted, when it comes to grace, I would agree that it’s a fine line. That’s why I like the Book of Mormon and its clarification:

        2 Nephi 25:

        23 For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.

        If an argument could be made that there’s a difference between faith and works and salvation and works, I would refer to what the Lord Himself declared:

        Matthew 16:

        27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

        • DW Hignite

          So in your works for salvation; can you tell me what you
          must do; that Christ failed to do, when he said: John 19:30 “It is finished”, and bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
          How might you boast, what can you
          offer and how can you justify your hope?
          “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God Not of works, lest any man should boast” (Eph. 2:8-9).

          “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness” (Rom. 4:5).

          “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which
          he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.” (Titus 3:5-7)

          The Word of God tells us that we are saved by
          faith alone apart from works. Romans 3:20 “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

          Read Galatians 2:16 Know that a man is not justified by the works of the Law, but by the faith [a]of
          Jesus Christ, even we, I say, have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ,
          and not by the works of the Law, because that by the works of the Law, [b]no flesh shall be justified.

          (John 3:15, John 3:16 & John 3:36)

          At this point do you see a contradiction? If so; it would be by your interpretation with some help by Joseph Smith.

          Did you consider that when using Mathew 16:27,
          had Christ been on the Cross, did he say “It is Finished”? Did you read the last verse in Mathew 16:28 and consider till they have seen the Son of man come in his kingdom (Christ Ascension). In other words where you tried
          to place Mathew 16 it will never fit because his plan of Salvation was not completed, yet! Most Mormons that require such works need to put aside their Mormon Book and do the good work learning how to read the Bible without help from Satan’s influence. The Book of Mormon is a crutch and it hampers the Mormon from becoming a Christian.

          If you take a serious study in the Bible; you might use what the Paul suggested in 2nd Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth
          not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. This method allows you to use scripture where it fits and not out of context such as your use of Mathew. Actually I might recommend that you spend a week or two in just 2nd Timothy without distractions of the Mormon book.

          So when you read 2 Nephi 25:23 and considered grace and works a fine line; did you consider the “after all we can do” at the end of that passage? And you compare
          this to James 2:24 “You see that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone.”

          I see the Bible teaching a justified saint that his works will come from within as a Mormon is taught that he must perform many works in order that what God did on the Cross might help. God does not need you work only your faith in Him and Him alone as Paul encountered such in Galatians; with Jewish disciples teaching the “works” from the old covenant. A covenant that man broke based on Laws; that compelled God to finish the work through his perfect example on earth as he gave his life for you and I; if we believed upon him and no other.

          2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if
          righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

          Tell me what works can you do that Christ failed to do?

          • RicePudding47

            For a quick response:

            The very reason I cited 2 Nephi 25:23 was to show that there is NOTHING we can do when it comes to works that will grant us salvation. It is only by grace–”after all we can do.”

            In my view, that does not contradict James admonitions about faith and works. Maybe I should define what I mean by “works”:

            (1) Obey the 10 Commandments; in the ultimate sense, grace will not save me if I commit premeditated murder–even if I sincerely confessed Jesus.

            (2) Sacrifice my time and resources to assist the poor and those less fortunate.

            (3) Live the law of chastity and resist looking on a woman to lust after her.

            (4) Consecrate my time and talent for the building of Christ’s kingdom on earth in preparation for His Second Coming–hopefully, just as you are doing, both for yourself and for your religious organization.

            In other words, to follow the example of our great Exemplar, as He admonished us so long ago.

            But again, these “works” are not an attempt to render grace null and void. In my mind (and heart), they are acts of gratitude for what my Redeemer has done for my soul in rescuing me from the grave and that other place.

            Hope this helps.

          • DW Hignite

            Not being sarcastic; but who are you helping?

            1.”And the law is not of faith” (Gal. 3:12).

            “For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ” (John 1:17).

            “But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man” (I Tim. 1:8-9).

            2. Is that a requirement for salvation?

            3.Amen. “Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul” I Pet. 2:11

            4. How can you honestly build his Kingdom if you fail to recognize who the King is? I build nothing for a religious organization, for whom do you work for?

            Grace per Mormon documents states “One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation” (Spencer W. Kimball,The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 206. See also The Book of Mormon Student Manual Religion 121 and 122, 1989, p. 36

            Grace meaning per Gods Holy Word
            “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Rom. 5:8).

            The Purpose of Grace per Gods Holy Word

            “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work” (Rom. 11:6).

            “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast” (Eph. 2:8-9).

            Spencer W. Kimball denies Gods Word that makes him a ANTI-CHRIST.

            Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

            Rice I am not seeking help; but offering it, so that you may be reassured that what Jesus did on the Cross was enough to pay the price for the Crimes you committed against him. There is nothing you can add or do that can equal what was done for you and I on that cross.

  • Scott (supporter of TRUnews)

    Thank to Rick, Im hearing TRUTH.

    Not to long ago, Gelnn Beck was like a Rush Limbaugh. Over the last few years he’s grown to be an activist. Alot of what he is for- Im for.
    Certainly NOT this stuff though.
    Just be still and hear from the Lord.
    Thanks for spotlighting this Rick!!!!

  • Deacon

    The Truth is Glen is a great Patriot of this Country and the
    Divisions that we create in our religions only stand to divide this country and
    our churches. Instead of listening to what he is saying you focus only on his
    religious beliefs. As for me and mine I will serve the Lord and will stand by
    all those who are willing to do the same no matter what Doctrinal differences
    there may be.

    • DW Hignite

      Care to explain what doctrinal differences you are referring to? Because there is no known doctrinal issues between any God fearing Christian Church and that of a Mormon cult. I do know you can find doctrinal issues between Church of Christ and Baptist, in regards to baptism . But there is no known doctrinal issues between the Mormon church and the Bride. There is a big difference in the deity of Christ, plan of salvation, post life, heaven and hell and what each believe, between the Mormons and the Bride of Christ. The mere fact that the Mormons believe they become god, or think that the angel Lucifer is the brother of the God Jesus among us.

    • artistk

      Doctrinal Differences? This Guy Glen Beck is not even a christian, how can you have a doctrinal difference with a cult that doesn’t believe in Jesus as the savior of the world. How is that CHRISTian?
      Yes Glen Beck is a lover of this country, but a lover of Christ he is not.

  • maryaha

    The Apostle John had plenty to say about doctrine. Perhaps we should heed his advice:
    2 John 1:7
    For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that
    Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
    2 John 1:8
    Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought,
    but that we receive a full reward.
    2 John 1:9
    Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
    2 John 1:10
    If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
    2 John 1:11
    For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

    For me, tuning in to Glen Beck’s program violates “receive him not into your house”. I don’t want to be guilty of being a partaker of someone’s evil deeds after all the Lord Jesus Christ has done for me!

    Thank you Rick for never compromising the truth of the Gospel of Christ.

  • Loretta Young

    It is weird…..why the Man in the Moon? Why not God watching us over the years? Beck is worth $90 million. There is a reason he has all that money and it’s not good.

  • frankfan42

    Never confuse entertainment with spiritual education. Beck is a patriot who loves his country, but he is not a Christian. Rick is correct in this matter. Do not let yourself be deceived in spiritual matters by Beck or anyone else who is NOT Christ. To know Christ, read your Bible, Fellowship with others, and Pray.

  • Old Ned

    The Mormon Jesus: Brutal Killer in the Book of Mormon:

    In the Book of Mormon, Jesus brought death and destruction with him to the Cross. In 3 Nephi, Chapters 8 and 9, it details the events testifying of Christ’s crucifixion. It describes the desolation of the great city of Zarahemla by fire, and the city of Moroni “did sink into the sea and the inhabitants thereof were drowned… the earth was carried up upon the city of Mornihah…there was great and terrible destruction in the land southward……terrible destruction in the land northward….the highways were broken up….many great and noble cities were sunk and many burned and many shaken till the buildings thereof had fallen to the earth…..all these great and terrible things were done in the space of three hours.”

    3 Nephi, Chapter 9, tells of further wrath as the Lord also destroyed the cities and inhabitants of Gigal, Onihah, Mocum, Jerusalem, Gadiandi, Gadiomnah, Jacob, Gimgimmo, Jacobugath, Laman, Josh, Gad, and Kishkumen. (a total of 16 major cities)

    Who did all this killing to testify of our Lord’s atonement on Calvary? 3 Nephi 9:15 reveals the murderer of all these innocent inhabitants of the Book of Mormon lands, “Behold, I am Jesus Christ the son of God. I created the heavens and the earth and all things that in them are.” He adds, (in verse 21), “behold, I have come unto the world to bring redemption unto the world to save the world from sin.”

    I guess the easiest way was to kill almost every living creature; at least the vast majority of that portion of his”other sheep have I.” This Mormon Jesus was a god of wrath, exercising some form of Old Testament Judgment by the one who was supposed to be the end of the law

    Forgive Them, Father

    The Biblical Jesus cried out to His Father, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”Pretty simply, we see two different Jesus” here.

    The Christ of Mormonism is not the same Christ of the Bible. 2 Cor.11:3-5 tells us that there will be those who would teach a different Christ.

    Paul says of them, “For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ”. So there is a Biblical warning about those who would bring the doctrine of another Jesus and a simple test.

    Do the Mormons and the Book of Mormon pass that test? No.

    • RicePudding47

      If you question the veracity of the Book of Mormon’s testament of Christ due to the destruction of cities, then ponder the words of John and what shall occur prior to Christ’s Second Coming:

      Revelations 16:

      17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

      18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

      19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the
      cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

  • osuredleg

    Very well said Keith! I had to wince when I heard Rick on the radio show say how good of a historian that David Barton is. Boy, that is TOTALLY wrong! He and others should watch Chris Putnam’s movie that he did called “Faith of our Fathers.” He shows how Barton uses only slivers of truth about the Founding Fathers. Most of them were Deists, but NOT Christians! They did NOT wish to establish a Christian nation, and the “god” that they talk about was most likely NOT the God of our Bible. Kudos to Bill Keller for pointing out and some of the “dirt” on Barton and how he is a member of the board of Mercury Radio. He is also most likely a Free Mason, as he is an apologist for the Founding Fathers, who were almost all Masons! Open your eyes people, the US was NOT founded (officially) as a Christian Nation. However, there were many people that came here that were Christians (e.g., Puritans) and still are today. But we have been fed this mythos of how our country was founded under God, and this is not true. There is a “god” that they believed in, but it is the god of this world (i.e., Lucifer).

    • Keith Kampschaefer

      I am hesitant to broadly brush-stroke the founding fathers as being under the complete influence of Satan or Freemasonry. Yes, there is a tremendous amount of evidence that Freemasonry was already strongly influencing events in the foundation of America such as the layout of Washington, D.C., but the foundational documents also give evidence to a force of good working as well.

      It is possible, just as it happens today, that some members of Freemasonry are ‘kept in the dark’ about what the true agenda is of this and other secret societies. Washington, later in his life, replied in a letter to a correspondent, ““I have heard much of the nefarious, and dangerous plan, and doctrines of the Illuminati”.

      Freemasonry as well as whatever other groups or institutions the Illuminati could infiltrate were used as the new entity for the ‘secret’ Illuminati to ‘indwell’ since there nefarious plans had been exposed in Europe.

      The battle of good verses evil continues on with the remnant (salt) trying to preserve the big ham (world) from spoiling. But once the salt in no longer preserving, such as Christians falling for Glenn Beck’s deception, the world will begin to crawl with maggots.

      And if God does not shorten this spoilage of the earth, the maggots would consume the whole earth.

      Truth is the preserving power in the salt. Take the truth out, and the salt is good only to be cast out into the street to be trampled upon.

  • maryaha

    There are many people today that try to equate patriotism with
    Christianity, and it leads them to nothing more than patriotic idolatry
    that can never save anyone. I love what my country used to stand for, at
    least the majority….I am unable to love it now that it is
    diametrically opposed to what God says in His Word is righteous and good
    and holy. I cannot pray for God’s blessing on my country anymore…I
    simply ask Him that even in wrath, He will remember mercy. It’s coming
    folks…judgment is long overdue, but it is now speeding towards America
    like a runaway train. I am always reminded that God’s Word says to whom
    much is given, much will be required.

  • Joe Bush

    Mr Wiles, have you ever read the Book of Mormon before you cry heresy? You are starting to sound like the guy who says “lets pass the bill, and we’ll find out what’s inside it later”

    • DW Hignite

      Far from passing bills or Judgments as does Pelosi. Joseph Smith being the focal point; allows us to read the belief and heresy before one arrives to the believer.

  • RicePudding47

    Thank you, DW, for the quote. I was not aware of it. I think, though, he misspoke. (By the way, the quote comes not from Joseph Smith; it comes from Wilford Woodruff, a later president of the church.)

    Allow me to quote from the Book of Mormon.

    Jacob in 2 Nephi 9:20, “O how great the holiness of our God! For he knoweth all things, and there is not anything save he knows it.”

    Joseph Fielding Smith, another president of the church and a direct descendent of Joseph Smith, asserted:

    “Do we believe that God has all ‘wisdom’? If so, in that, he is absolute.

    “If there is something he does not know, then he is not absolute in ‘wisdom,’ and to think such a thing is absurd. . . .

    “It is not through ignorance and learning hidden truth that [God] progresses, for if there are truths which he does not know, then these things are greater than he, and this cannot be.”

    Lastly, Bruce R. McConkie, the apostle, made this strong statement:

    “There are those who say that God is progressing in knowledge and is learning new truths. This is false—utterly, totally, and completely. There is not one sliver of truth in it.

    “. . . God progresses in the sense that his kingdoms increase and his dominions multiply—not in the sense that he learns new truths and discovers new laws. God is not a student.

    ‘He is not a laboratory technician. He is not postulating new theories on the basis of past experiences. He has indeed graduated to that state of exaltation that consists of knowing all things.”

    I would add that omniscience would be null and void if God were not also omnipresent. In other words, there is no past, present and future; all things are before him, nothing is hidden from his view and understanding.

    Hope this helps.