U.S. anti-gay activist Peter LaBarbera arrested in Regina

By on April 15, 2014
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U.S. anti-gay activist Peter LaBarbera and a Saskatchewan man were arrested on the University of Regina campus on Monday and will be charged with mischief, police said.

LaBarbera, who is with a group called Americans for Truth about Homosexuality, and Bill Whatcott were distributing anti-gay literature on the campus.

Before their arrival, the university issued a news release saying the pair would be monitored to ensure they did not engage in any activity that would promote hatred.

At one point, with news cameras rolling, an unidentified university official approached Whatcott, 46, and LaBarbera, 51, and asked them to leave. During that encounter, Whatcott said he had attempted to get permission to set up an information table and, since he was denied, proceeded to set up a table anyway.

“I’m not leaving,” Whatcott told the official, “You guys are intolerant and should be ashamed of yourselves for shutting down our message without even considering it.”

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  • MeanieHoney

    It’s his free speech right to exercise what he believes. Love is not hate.

    • MarkOH

      And he can do it in his own home or in a place where he has a permit. he does NOT have the right to ignore the law (in Canada or the US) just because he wants to spew his own truth.

      • frankfan42

        Can you cite the law in question Mark?

        • MarkOH

          Read the story.

          • frankfan42

            I did, can you cite the law violated, or do you merely celebrate with impunity?

          • MarkOH

            Sorry, not Canadian. But I do know that trespassing is against the law in most countries. Can you cite a law that would allow them to do what they did?

          • frankfan42

            No, I don’t live in Canada, so don’t know Canadian law.

          • MarkOH

            Obviously, but then you have demonstrated that there is a LOT you don’t know.

          • frankfan42

            Sure, but I know that sin is still sin.

          • MarkOH

            Actually, from your postings, you are truly clueless. Otherwise you wouldn’t be digging such a deep grave for yourself by constantly going against Christ’s teachings.

          • frankfan42

            Show me how I have gone against His teachings Mark.

          • MarkOH

            Bearing false witness Is the biggest one. Judging others is another. Defending your own ignorance and continuing to mistreat your fellow human beings because of your own laziness. Misusing His word – the list is endless

      • frankfan42

        Again, cite law and code that was violated.

        • Lamont Cranston

          Are you raping a child right now, pervert?

          • frankfan42

            I don’t know, but I certainly hope and pray you are not raping a child. I know how evil homosexuals CAN be, having worked in a prison and treated people after being gang raped.

          • MarkOH

            LOL, a man raping another man is NOT homosexuality – it’s rape. And if you truly worked in a prison as you claim, you’d know that.

          • frankfan42

            I surely did work there for 3 and a half years. Homosexual rape is indeed a serious problem in prisons. I know it is not in keeping with how the homosexual community likes to portray you all, but homosexuals can be rapists as well.

          • Michael Hampton

            Straight people rape too. And since there are way more straight people than gay people, you are the ones raping people. Do you see how silly your logic is?

          • frankfan42

            As one who has worked in the ER for many years I am well aware of the horror of rape, which is a horrible crime no matter the sex of the perpetrator. The truth is homosexuals often rape heterosexuals in prison. Do you deny this truth?

          • MarkOH

            Yes, because it is a LIE. Or did you ask all those people doing the raping if they were gay? And, if you worked in a prison, WHY did you allow rape?

          • frankfan42

            As a medical man it was not my job to guard the convicts, only to treat them. Of course, everything is a lie that does not conform to the “Homosexual script.” LOL

          • MarkOH

            A medical man? In what guise?

          • frankfan42

            As a medical practitioner.

          • MarkOH

            A witch doctor? Your “claims” get weaker and weaker all the time.

          • Michael Hampton

            And heterosexual men also rape gay men in prison. Your point?

            And since there are more straight men in prison than gay men, the numbers are not on your side.

          • frankfan42

            Nice try at confusing the issue, but there are homosexual predators, although you won’t acknowledge evil in your own midst. I guess if you have to look in a mirror you may even see your own sin, right?

          • Lamont Cranston

            I hope your dad was raped and murdered. That would be a just punishment for spawning diseased mutants like you.

          • frankfan42

            I FEEL your love. LOL The sad truth is you can’t handle the truth so you try to kill the messenger. How “Heroic” of you. LOL

          • frankfan42

            Yeah, the truth is an ugly thing. Those who dare speak it to evil ones are often reviled.

          • MarkOH

            Ignorance is strong in you. Rape has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation and everything to do with power and control. How many of those men doing the rape consider themselves gay?

          • frankfan42

            LOL, really? Why don’t you admit that all is not rainbows and puppy kisses in the world of homosexuality? You have homosexual predators and pedophiles in your midst, you all even have organizations that SUPPORT these things. Ever heard of NAMBLA- an organization that promotes homosexual pedophilia? Or are you one of their “Founding Fathers?” http://nambla.org/whatis.html
            To the best of my knowledge, correct me if I’m wrong, there is NO organization that promotes heterosexual pedophilia. I guess pedophilia is ok with you, as long as its perpetrated by homosexuals. Explain that one please Marko!

          • MarkOH

            Funny that you would bring up NAMBLA because I am sure you are a card carrying life time member.
            However, that is a diversion. The point is, which you seem to fail to comprehend, is that RAPE is a crime and not due to sexual orientation but done for control and power.

          • Michael Hampton

            The law would be trespassing. The school told him not to set up a table on their premises. He did anyway because he is a “christian” and doesn’t have to follow any rules. They had him arrested. It’s very simple.

  • Diana

    What was he arrested for, preaching the Word?

    • MarkOH

      No, trespassing.

  • One Icon

    Ten or so years ago I wrote letters to every Member of Parliament in Canada, urging them not to go down this path of recognizing gay marriage. So Canada makes gay unions legal and you can’t even speak the truth anymore. In some ways our Canadian culture is worse than the United States. Were not the bully on the block, but the gay kid crying wolf and everybody runs to that voice now a days. Pathetic.

    • MarkOH

      These two guys were TRESPASSING. It has NOTHING to do with gays. But your bigotry is sure showing.

      • frankfan42

        Heaven forbid they actually be allowed to speak God’s Truth on a college campus.

        • SoCalVet

          news flash: college campuses tend to be reality-based.

          • frankfan42

            Newsflash for You- flies and homofascists tend to gather wherever there is a fresh pile of dung.

          • SoCalVet

            why do you remind me of Glenn Frazier Cross? Oh I know, it’s the irrational hatred.

          • frankfan42

            W-E-A-K
            Buzz Buzz you go flying around/

          • MarkOH

            How Christ like of you. And, how anti-intellectual.

        • MarkOH

          Trespassing is trespassing.

          • frankfan42

            Cite the law and its applicability, or do you not know?

          • MarkOH

            I’m sorry, did you not read the story? They had no permit, were asked to leave and refused, and were then arrested. Would you allow someone into your home uninvited to tell you the truth of the LGBT community?

          • frankfan42

            I did read the story, did you? I asked a question about the applicability of the law in this case, on a college campus in Canada. In the US lots of groups speak on campus with or without invitation. BTW, I do invite pastors and friends to speak the truth about LGBT all the time, even in my home. Peace to you!

          • MarkOH

            And per the story, they cite that a permit is necessary.

          • frankfan42

            Who cites that Mark? Relevant code please.

          • MarkOH

            From his own words (do you have a reading comprehension problem?):

            “During that encounter, Whatcott said he had attempted to get permission to set up an information table and, since he was denied, proceeded to set up a table anyway.”

          • frankfan42

            He attempted to get permission does not mean that a permit was necessary. Only that he sought permission. One cannot start a proof by leading with a conclusion.

          • MarkOH

            LOL, arguing for arguments sake., Sad.

          • Michael Hampton

            If you are not gay, then why do you invite people into your home to talk about gay people? I don’t bring friends into my home to talk about straight people.

          • frankfan42

            I have some friends who are homosexuals.

          • MarkOH

            I doubt that VERY much

      • frankfan42

        Spoken like a true homofascist.

        • MarkOH

          Tsk, tsk. Name calling? really?

          • frankfan42

            Is calling an apple an apple name calling? Not in a rational universe.Those who advocate the homosexual agenda above all else are just properly labeled in this way. If you have a problem with that its your problem.

          • MarkOH

            LOL, if it makes you feel better to call people names, go ahead. It is just another example of your anti-Christian views of putting yourself above others.

          • frankfan42

            Its not Anti Christian, its called Truth, try it sometime. The view is MUCH better.

          • MarkOH

            Not truth at all. judgment.

          • frankfan42

            Apparently you have never read your Bible. May I send you one? I will even highlight some relevant passages for you, including where Christ died for your sins. How can you honor Him by staying in what is clearly sin?

          • MarkOH

            Once again, you are wrong. I am quite versed in the Bible. The cherry picking you do is an affront to what the Bible stands for.

          • abbygirl08

            1 Corinthians 6:9-10
            Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.…

          • MarkOH

            I didn’t realize the word “homosexual” was around when the Bible was written. Seems like a mistranslation to me.

          • abbygirl08

            If you prefer the KJV, “abusers of themselves with mankind”. I quoted NASB.

          • MarkOH

            Which means what, exactly?

          • abbygirl08

            The same. What? Did you think this practice suddenly came into existence after the Bible had been written?

          • MarkOH

            Ah, so you don’t know what it means either. Figured.

          • frankfan42

            No, actually the ancient Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew texts also are clear that homosexuality is sin. Its true- look it up.

          • MarkOH

            Actually, they don’t. Look it up.

          • frankfan42

            Prove that the Bible does not condemn the practice of homosexuality or not, go for it.

          • MarkOH

            Already have. But, I knew you were making up the stuff about the various texts. You don’t know a thing and keep spouting garbage.

          • frankfan42

            Satan was well versed in the Bible as well. You claim I “Cherry pick” prove me wrong. Please do your best.

          • MarkOH

            Kettle, pot

          • Ken M

            Doug…are you a Catholic, Southern Baptist…or any of the many others…just interested where you go on Sunday, I more than know your’e a Christian, just wondering which version u CHOOSE to follow

          • frankfan42

            Was raised a Presbyterian, now a Methodist.

          • MarkOH

            So, which is true?

          • Ken M

            they were also arrested for passing out anti abortion pamphlets, abortion…nothing HOMOfacist there, after all…we can’t even make babies

          • MarkOH

            Nice try Ken, but Doug is really only interested in the gays. A secret desire on his part.

    • frankfan42

      But we do Know that Christ wins and will straighten out all inequities and reveal all things that are now hidden. We are living in the times when “evil” is called “Good” and the “Good” and righteous “Bad.” We must endure until He returns and proclaim His truth, being the “Salt” until that time. God Bless ya for sticking up for what you know to be right!

      • Lamont Cranston

        Yeah, some lazyslut’s kid is going to make everything better. That makes sense.

        • frankfan42

          Are you calling yourself a name here little Lamontie? I don’t see how you can make anything better anyway. Enlighten me.

          • Lamont Cranston

            No, I was referring to the crackwhore your “savior” crawled out of. You know, the one the imaginary jackass you worship raped.

          • abbygirl08

            Amazing what Trunews censors yet lets go through here. This has got to be one of the most disgusting comments I’ve heard yet. Won’t even bother flagging.

          • Lamont Cranston

            It’s because I’m a better person than you.

          • frankfan42

            No, you most certainly are not. You show yourself by your words to be a vile disgusting homofascist blasphemer.

          • abbygirl08

            Thank you.

          • MarkOH

            For what?

          • abbygirl08

            Pretty sure you wouldn’t understand how a true friend might come to another person’s defense so I won’t bother explaining it to you.

            If you want to continue as a homosexual, that is your choice. But the Word of God DOES judge this behavior, just as it judges the other sins mentioned in 1 Cor. 6:9-10. It is pretty all inclusive. I cannot claim to be blameless…

            But if you read further, verse 11 says, “Such WERE some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”

            The operative word… WERE. They used to be, but are no longer. But merely stopping a certain behavior doesn’t get you anywhere either. You must turn to Jesus with your whole heart and be born again. Then you will be a child of God.

          • MarkOH

            I love how you assume I’m gay. No matter. But, if I were you, I’d leave the judging to God and deal with your own business.

          • abbygirl08

            I most certainly will leave the judging to God, because the only one worthy to judge is the Lamb that was slain. And we are ALL guilty. But like I said… Jesus is an equal opportunity REDEEMER!

          • MarkOH

            And yet, you judge. Why lie to your self?

          • abbygirl08

            And yet you judge. You had the audacity to judge God Himself. You called Him a rapist as well as other things. This has been a recurring theme with PTA. Is that you? I’m inclined to think so. He loved to blaspheme also.

          • MarkOH

            Where did I judge God?

          • abbygirl08

            You are correct. I confused you with Lamont Cranston. Sorry. I ask your forgiveness.

          • MarkOH

            Comments are flying fast and furious. No problem.

          • MarkOH

            And who are you to judge?

          • John

            Blasphemy is a civic duty and moral obligation. Blasphemy is also a victimless crime.

          • frankfan42

            Except perhaps to the perpetrator.

          • John

            As I said, one who blasphemes is not a victim nor a criminal and is fulfilling his civic duty and moral obligation.

  • Lamont Cranston

    Let the martyrbation commence! (Oh, I see it already has.)

    • MarkOH

      And I am sure a fund raising letter is not far behind.

      • frankfan42

        Glad to know we have your support, how much are you willing to chip in?

        • MarkOH

          For this hater and bigot? Nothing.

          • frankfan42

            OH :) so only the homosexual advocates are allowed to throw words around with impunity?

          • MarkOH

            Oh, he has proved OVER AND OVER that he is a hater and a bigot.

          • frankfan42

            TERROR, HORROR, someone actually dares to speak the truth to you who advocate a SIN as something good?
            Ever heard this story?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgFlbgwWf94

          • MarkOH

            LOL, prove to me that ANYTHING LeBarbara speaks is truth and we can talk. Try citing some other source than the Bible since you don’t seem to comprehend what it says.

          • frankfan42

            I cited Hanna Barbera for you in the above cartoon. I see zero evidence that you comprehend the meaning of the Word if it does not support your sin.

          • MarkOH

            Well, that is about LeBarbara’s speed.
            Funny, doesn’t look like a typical Hanna Barbera cartoon. looks more anime.

          • Michael Hampton

            Um…you sure spend a lot of time on these comment boards about gay people. Look. I know you are obsessed with gay people. It consumes you. Most Americans don’t share your obsession.

          • frankfan42

            Correction- I spend a lot of time on Christian web sites. If confronting your sin offends you then feel free to leave.
            Fixed it for you! Have a nice eternity!

          • Lamont Cranston

            Yep. Think you’ll get over it, or will you have to waddle on off to heaven now?

          • frankfan42

            When God calls me I will go. Will you come when satan calls you?

          • MarkOH

            I wouldn’t wait up for Him to call you, Frank.

  • TerryInIowa

    He was arrested for trespassing. When a property owner (or representative of the property owner) asks you to leave the property, and you refuse, that is trespassing. When you ask if you can set up a table on someone else’s property and they tell you “No.” and you do it anyway, you will probably be asked to leave.

    • frankfan42

      Can you cite Canadian law and its applicability on a college campus where lots of ideas are freely discussed, including Marxism, homosexuality, or is there something else at work here?

  • Vhaid Sabeti

    Isn’t it interesting that this “straight, christian, male” has time to travel to Canada and talk about the buttsex, while leaving his wife and 5 kids back home in Illinois ! He’s so obsessed with the “buttsex”, that it really seems like he’d like to try it !

    • frankfan42

      While your comment is amusing to your homosexual friends it is inappropriate on a Christian web page. Perhaps we should invade your web page with proclamations about the sin of homosexuality?

      • Lamont Cranston

        Don’t forget to swallow when you get to heaven – Jesus hates a spitter!

        • frankfan42

          Gee now all the “Silent” Christians can hear your love, and the love of your group LC!!! Enjoy your eternity.

          • MarkOH

            You play the victim so well. You insult people and when they respond you talk of love. Try giving some love before you condemn others.

          • frankfan42

            Funny I sure don’t see myself as a victim. That implies you all have anything approaching ammunition to a Christian, which I have seen no evidence of here.

          • MarkOH

            Uh, want to try putting that in proper, legible English?

          • frankfan42

            Gee, did not realize you were a grammer Nazi, since you don’t use spell check-You are shooting with blanks. Your pencil has no lead. Your dog won’t hunt. Homosexuality is still a sin. Clear enough for you?

          • MarkOH

            Hm, doesn’t remotely look like what you posted above.
            Frank, Frank, Frank – just admit you are attract to men. It will be much easier for you.

          • Michael Hampton

            So he is evil for insulting you, but you are righteous for insulting everyone else who doesn’t share your obsession. Freaking hypocrite. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM!

          • frankfan42

            Only homofascists can blaspheme and then claim THEY are the victims. LOL , the truth of who you all are is actually out in the open.

          • MarkOH

            When a Christian losses his job for being a Christian (a CHOICE, I might add).;
            When a parent is denied the right to adopt because he or she is a Christian;
            When a Christian is denied the right to marry the one they love just because they are a Christian;
            When a person is refused service because they are a Christian;
            When a person is bullied, beaten or killed because they are a Christian -
            THEN you might have a point. Until then, the use of the term “homofascists” just reinforces your bigotry. Like calling an African American a fascist for sitting at a lunch counter.

          • frankfan42

            Being a Christian is a choice, just like practicing as a homosexual. I agree, and for the record both my neighbors are black families. Being black is not a sin. Are you aware that the King family is not on the side of “Homosexual rights” BTW?

            Alveda King, the niece of civil rights icon Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., says that if you support same-sex marriage equality, you’re going to hell. Your safety of your very soul, she suggests, is dependent upon not supporting marriage for loving same-sex couples, who already have enough rights, King proclaims, in this ad she recorded for the anti-gay Maryland Marriage Alliance.

            “I understand the civil rights struggle. During the Civil Rights Movement, we were working for access to education, to decent housing, jobs, and healthcare. As a minister, I believe that the NAACP leadership and gay rights activists have formed an unholy alliance by trying to convince you and me that marriage should be redefined. We did not define marriage and we cannot redefine marriage. Marriage, by definition, is a holy union between one man and one woman. Gay and lesbian couples already have rights under Maryland law, like priority hospital visitation, sharing property, tax exemption, adoption, and the list goes on. It’s possible to be tolerant of gay and lesbian rights without redefine marriage—God’s holy union. Some preachers are saying that gay marriage is inevitable and that they want to be on the right side of history. Well I believe that we are on the right side of history and the right side of eternity. Support marriage as God’s holy union between one man and one woman—vote against Question Six.”

          • MarkOH

            Sexual orientation is as innate as race. Religion IS a choice. The fact that MLK’s niece choses to turn her back on all that her uncle fought for, is her choice. A sad one, but her choice.

          • John

            Correta Scott King, the wife of MLK, Jr. She is much more an authority on her husband than Alveda is on her uncle.
            “I still hear people say that I should not be talking about the rights of lesbian and gay people and I should stick to the issue of racial justice. But I hasten to remind them that Martin Luther King Jr.said, “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” I appeal to everyone who believes in Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream to make room at the table of brother- and sisterhood for lesbian and gay people.”
            Reuters (31 March 1998)
            Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood. This sets the stage for further repression and violence that spread all too easily to victimize the next minority group.
            Chicago Defender (1 April 1998)
            I’ve always felt that homophobic attitudes and policies were unjust and unworthy of a free society and must be opposed by all Americans who believe in democracy.
            Chicago Sun Times (1 April 1998)
            For many years now, I have been an outspoken supporter of civil and human rights for gay and lesbian people. Gays and lesbians stood up for civil rights in Montgomery, Selma, in Albany, Ga. and St. Augustine, Fla., and many other campaigns of the Civil Rights Movement. Many of these courageous men and women were fighting for my freedom at a time when they could find few voices for their own, and I salute their contributions
            Chicago Tribune (1 April 1998)

            We have a lot more work to do in our common struggle against bigotry and discrimination. I say “common struggle” because I believe very strongly that all forms of bigotry and discrimination are equally wrong and should be opposed by right-thinking Americans everywhere. Freedom from discrimination based on sexual orientation is surely a fundamental human right in any great democracy, as much as freedom from racial, religious, gender, or ethnic discrimination.

            “Creating Change” conference of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, Atlanta, Georgia (9 November 2000)

          • MarkOH

            Thanks, John. Had tried to find Mrs. King’s comments.

          • John

            Just google “Coretta Scott King on gay rights”

          • abbygirl08

            “When a person is bullied, beaten or killed because they are a Christian – THEN you might have a point.”

            Never heard of Islam, have you.

          • MarkOH

            Ah, the Islam card. Christians and Islamists have been killing each other for centuries, which is really sad since they are branches of the same religion. However, I noticed you ignored the rest of the post.

          • John

            Fatwa envy

          • Lamont Cranston

            I wasn’t trying to express any love for a child-raping pervert like you.

  • Jean-Marc in Canada

    The man thinks more about gay sex than I do and that’s saying something.

  • Boy Elvis

    “Every stink that fights the ventilator thinks it is Don Quixote.” — Stanislaw Lem

    • frankfan42

      Do you prefer your own brand or that or your “Friend?”

      • Boy Elvis

        I prefer coherence, first and foremost. Work on that, please.

        • frankfan42

          I prefer those who call their sin a sin. I’ll work on my issue,will you address yours?

          • Boy Elvis

            You haven’t named your sin, but I know what it is. Do you?

  • frankfan42

    Not being Canadian I have to inquire whether all groups who wish to speak on campus have to register. Or do they permit free speech? Do all groups have to register, or just those offensive to homofascism?

    • Merv99

      You mention homofascism. Is it gay people trying to stop Christians from marrying each other, or is it the other way around?

      • frankfan42

        My def of homofascist is this- those who advocate the homosexual agenda above all other things, including the Word of the Lord, and His Truth.
        The homofascists are those who advocate for gay rights above all other things, particularly God’s Truth.

        • SoCalVet

          please come back down to reality with the rest of us. we don’t live in your make-believe universe.

          • frankfan42

            Are you a Christian?

          • MarkOH

            YOU certainly aren’t. What’s your pint?

          • frankfan42

            My point is the question. Do you claim to be a Christian?

          • MarkOH

            Absolutely. And I don’t discriminate against anyone nor tell anyone that they are somehow more evil or sinful than I am.

          • frankfan42

            How do you square calling yourself a Christian when you advocate the practice of homosexuality? You can’t cling to the Cross and the sin, nor can you advocate any sin and legitimately call yourself a Christian.

          • MarkOH

            God made people homosexual. The Bible does not speak against consenting adults in a same sex relationship.
            How do YOU call yourself a Christian when you continue to judge others?

          • frankfan42

            God made people, some with tendencies that are not wholesome. Did not God also make those who are pedophiles? Do they not have the choice of denying themselves or harming others? Yes, and it is the same for those who have homosexual tendencies.
            The Bible clearly speaks against the sin of homosexuality in both the Old Testament and the New Testament. I judge by God’s rules, not my own.

            Leviticus 18:22
            22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
            and of course Romans 1:21-32 which I posted above.
            In your eyes I am guilty of “Judging ” you. In truth I merely hold up a mirror of His Word and you are seeing- your own reflection.

          • MarkOH

            You are truly an evil and IGNORANT person to equate homosexuality to pedophilia when the VAST majority of pedophilias are heterosexual.
            You DO realize that those verses were in commendation of divorce, not homosexuality? It is not truth if you are taking verses out of context.

          • frankfan42

            Homosexuals and pedophiles are both people who have choices. They can choose to act on their desires or deny their carnal nature. Do you not like the picture of your sin?
            If you think these verses and others, do not condemn the practice of homosexuality please show me in context and prove your point in Scripture.
            BTW, the vast majority of pedophile priests were homosexuals, or do you deny THAT fact as well?

          • MarkOH

            I love how when it is finally proven that sexual orientation is NOT a choice, the haters resort to the idea that people shouldn’t act on their natural tendencies.
            Heads up for you, children cannot consent to sexual activity and THAT is why it is different.
            So when did you choose not to act on your homosexual tendencies, or are still waiting for a change to act on them?

          • frankfan42

            You may have tendencies, but you always have choice on whether to act on them or not. Or are you saying you have NO control over yourself in this realm of life?

          • MarkOH

            Frank, scientific studies have shown that those who have the most issue with homosexuality are, deep down, homosexual themselves. They lash out in a defense to prove they aren’t what they were born to be.

          • PeaceToAll

            Looks like you’ve made some new friends Doug. Man, I disappear for a few days and you’ve got it all stirred up again. Glad to see so many calling you out on all the hypocrisy I’ve been calling you out on.

          • MarkOH

            Doug? Oh, I thought his name was frank

          • PeaceToAll

            His name is Doug. Moniker is FrankFan as in Frank Sinatra fan

          • SoCalVet

            keep talking…though we’ve all got a real clear picture of who you are already.

          • frankfan42

            No, not ignorant, nor evil, just informed of the facts.

            Talk to the folks the priests molested, the vast majority of the victims were young boys, and as you know all priests are male. There are in fact very few cases where a priest molested a little girl that I am aware of. How do you explain that? Instead of offering real thoughts you offer up condemnation for even bringing the truth out. Typical of those who make their sin their own master. Here is a nice video for you of the monkey grinding the organ. Enjoy!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E1BABUUTck

          • MarkOH

            ” the vast majority of the victims were young boys, and as you know all priests are male. ”
            So that makes the priests homosexual?
            Try reading SOMETHING other than the Bible.
            The earth is not the center of the universe.
            The sky is not an ocean that opening a window, will cause water to flood the earth.
            People with mental illness are NOT possessed by evil spirits.
            And pedophilia, and rape, is NOT about sexual orientation but about control and power.
            Stop spreading your ignorance. You can read and learn. There is no excuse.

          • frankfan42

            Yes Mark, some priests are homosexuals. Some homosexuals are predators, sin begats sin.

          • MarkOH

            Sigh, I do fear you lack any reading ability or comprehension. Obviously, you did not respond to my post

          • frankfan42

            Still waiting for you use of Scripture to show that the verses were taken out of context. Any idea how long you may take? Elvis is about the leave the building.

          • Ken Faivor

            Doug, friend, you have already gave them the Word above, and I’m pretty sure they heard it all before, no sense taking it any further, let them have the page.

          • frankfan42

            Ken, I respect your stance, and advice. I wade into the Lion’s den knowing that the enemy is here.

          • Ken Faivor

            OK

          • MarkOH

            Uh, no. You storm in, spewing hatred, and then when people react, you play the martyr. It shows a deeply held desire to be superior and accepted.

          • frankfan42

            Or just to confront evil on my own back step

          • MarkOH

            Confronting perceived evil is, well, crazy.

          • John

            The United Church of Canada disagrees with you.

          • frankfan42

            Do they agree with the Bible?

          • John

            Of course they do. Their beliefs are entirely consistent with the bible.

    • William Henry Bowen

      Frank, there is no 1st Amendment in Canada – you can only “speak” what the government permits you to speak.

      • frankfan42

        William, thank you. How is this regulation done? Are certain topics prohibited? Are certain stances prohibited?

  • frankfan42

    Homofascists- Christ came to forgive us our sins. He assumed those sins upon himself, blameless of sin and was nailed to a Cross and died. For YOU and for ME. He arose from the grave and ascended to the right hand of God, and He is coming back. You can become His, turn from your sin and be forgiven and accepted as His by both He and we, his followers. Or you can wallow in your sin, which you have made your (little g) god.
    John 3:16
    16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    What you cannot do is cling to Christ AND your sin, you have to choose one or the other. The practice of homosexuality IS clearly a sin.

    Romans 1: 21-32
    21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
    24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
    28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
    Christ is ready to welcome you to His flock, and we are ready to welcome and receive you. But be NOT deceived, you cannot have your SIN and your forgiveness. None of us can cling to sin, no matter what it is. Neither can you. Your knee shall bow when Christ returns, and if He Judges you and finds you value your sin more than He- well, you don’t want to go there, neither do I. Hell is the worst torment ever, and it is for eternity. Choose wisely!

    • Lamont Cranston

      I’ll do whatever I have to do in order to be sure I don’t have to spend eternity surrounded by worthless bigot filth like you. Hope you’re in heaven soon!

      • frankfan42

        So you are fine with spending hell in eternity so that you can enjoy your sin now?

        • Lamont Cranston

          I’m fine with spending “hell in eternity” [sic] because then I won’t have to put up with whiny trash like you. Do give my best to your very chaste mother.

          • frankfan42

            Enjoy your stay in eternity LC!

    • MarkOH

      The Bible also supports slavery.

      • frankfan42

        Semi- Nice try at deflecting, care to stick to the topic?

        • MarkOH

          You are using the Bible to defend your hatred of LGBT people. I am merely pointing out how you are cherry picking what to spout and what to ignore. Not unlike the Pharisees that Jesus tried to teach.

          • frankfan42

            No Mark, just using Scripture to show that what you preach as your “Gospel,” the practice of homosexuality, is in fact SIN. Has nothing to do with hatred, everything to do with truth. Come over to the right side and even I will welcome you with a hug, just not TOO close okay?

          • MarkOH

            Too scared of that latent homosexual in you are you? Come on Frank, be true to yourself and embrace your same sex sexual orientation.

          • frankfan42

            Thank you for your invitation to the “Dark Side” but I decline to enter.

          • MarkOH

            Not the dark side, the truth since you seem to be so keen on that.

          • frankfan42

            The homosexual side is the “Truth?” Wow, I gotta run. Remember what I said about God loving you. It is near Easter time.

          • MarkOH

            Homosexuality is a normal sexual orientation so, yes, it’s true

          • John

            “just not TOO close” here we see the homophobia in action. Scripture is merely a cover for your misanthropic homophobia.

    • Goten Loves Life and Apples

      Hey Frank i find it strange these articles receive so many comments in no time flat any other article that references sin may get a few comments overnight but this one is got close to 100 in no time flat. Secondly you seem to like throwing your made up homofascists word around like its a real political party or something? seen as you make up words try these on for size nwofascists, secularfascists, warmongeringfascists, elitofascists, lyingfascists, thievingfascists, islamofascists, illuminatofascists, antichristofascists, and if you think its silly please tell me why?

      • Emma Duncan

        well now wait, wasn’t lying, on that list of no no’s and since with the fundie set, there seems to be worse sins then other sins, and apparently being gay is up there ahead of murder, child beating (again endorsed by the buybull)

        • Goten Loves Life and Apples

          Yes as a matter of fact it is along with Stealing, Adultery, Murder, Using Unjust Weights aka Scamming People and lets not forget the sin that got the devil booted out of heaven Self Esteem aka Pride.

          • MarkOH

            Let’s not forget wearing clothing made of two types of material. Or eating shrimp.

          • frankfan42

            Or the practice of homosexuality.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Its clear from your comments that you have a disdain for the bible and as a born again Gokuist i find that very sad indeed. As for slavery that was a common practice in the ancient world where very little moral ethics applied but the biblical slavery wasn’t the same as how the white people treated the colored people. Example the whites kidnapped the colored people and kidnapping in bible times was a crime worthy of the death penalty. Biblically supported slavery refers to two things example a thieve is caught stealing from someone else thus they work to pay off the debt of whatever they stole and secondly refers to people working at their job not unlike today in fact its worse today because at least in bible times a master had to feed and house his slaves. Whereas now you haft to work upwards of three jobs which on top of that you haft to feed, cloth and house yourself. In other words worker, husbandman, slave, servant, employee, and hired hand all mean the same thing in bible times. As for clothing made out of two kinds of natural material that could be a bad thing because it may allow mold that would only attack one to evolve into a super fungus that could attack any material and in bible times you wouldn’t want to eat shrimp because you would risk being poisoned by a red tide.

          • MarkOH

            So, you are INTERPRETING the Bible. But, I thought it’s word was taken verbatim? So, the verses you assume pertain to homosexuality, really do? They in way can be interpreted? Just those verses that pertain to you? Hypocrite

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            What the heck are you talking about i never once said one sin is above another in fact i have been trying to wake people up so they don’t treat one sin as worse than another Example most Christians frown upon gay marriage and at the same time support the army which is responsible for much suffering the world over.

          • MarkOH

            You equate homosexuality with adultery and murder yet make excuses for slavery.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Excuse me i never made excuses for nothing and if you read my comment you would realize the slavery that was permitted in scripture was nothing like the barbaric practice the states engaged in 170 years ago.

          • MarkOH

            You used a double negative so not sure what you are saying. If you can interpret what the Bible CLEARLY says about slavery but stick verbatim to verses regarding homosexuality or even gluttony, you are a hypocrite. Obviously, any Bible verse that directly relates to you must be interpreted but you hold the sword over others. Hypocrite.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            What are you talking about i clearly stated that the slavery permitted in the old testament was better off than slaving away for the big corporations today where people end up tens of thousands of dollars in debt because the prices are so dang high. As for interpretation maybe you should try interpreting this one: Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” I don’t know about you but that’s clear enough for me to grasp no interpretation needed. Now if you think some little white lie is okay get a low to this. Proverbs 12:22 “Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.” You see any sin no matter how minor you think it is is abomination in the sight of God and his only begotten Son Goku whom died on the cross to pay for the sins of mankind. Son Goku is the kindest most gentle and pure hearted man in the universe but when he sees injustice he becomes the most fierce warrior you could ever imagine. He also said if an adult harms a child it would be better if that man were never born.

          • MarkOH

            You DENY that slavery exists in the Bible! You try to make excuses for it. YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. How more clearly does it need to be said?

            “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.”

            Leviticus 25:44-46

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Okay you have shown me one of the verses but how is it any worse than our modern world today? example you rent land from the government which you do not own you slave away to pay the big corporations and worse yet they feed us processed foods that are unhealthy. If you don’t believe me just stop paying your taxes and well see how quickly the government will evict you from your own land thus your a slave whether you like it or not and not just any slavery this is ruthless slavery because if you don’t have a home the law enforcement will chase you all over the place. In other words the system God had was more generous and stress free than the capitalist greed system we have today where you haft to feed and house yourself thinking your free when in reality your not free at all.

          • MarkOH

            You base your hatred of gays on the Bible. I was pointing out your GROSS hypocrisy in ignoring other Bible verses that pertain to slavery.
            The rest of your diatribe does not relate to our discussion.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            How dare you accuse me of spreading hate! in fact i have been busy reprimanding others on this forum for signalling out the gays all the time and you have the gall to accuse me of spreading hate you good for nothing brat! For all i know you could be one of those right wingers logging on here with a different account hoping to trip me up? Well too bad for you bub it didn’t work.

          • MarkOH

            I have read your posts. You claim to be “reprimanding others on this forum for signalling out the gays all the time ” but I do not see much proof of it. You now try to avoid the vile you have posted here. Sorry, I won’t let you of that easily. Some Germans were nice to some Jews but they still let the Holocaust occur.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Gosh i hate to haft to break this to you but you are a hate filled little prig and that’s putting it mildly. I can’t believe that you would stoop so low as to compare me with Hitler and as a true Gokuist i am deeply offended that you would slander me like that or even hint that i would support atrocities like that.

          • MarkOH

            interesting that you would jump to the incorrect conclusion I called you a Nazi. I DID compare you to the people who, century after century, turn the other way when “others” are mistreated.

            But, of course, if you profess you are a Gokuist, then your trolling shows.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            One other thing do you eat meat? If so have you ever eaten a chicken nugget at Mcdonalds or anywhere else for that matter? If so consider pasting this into your Google search bar and see the horror.

            Chicks allegedly drowned, scalded to death and ground up alive at Ont. hatchery

            Note i can’t send a URL over this chat site.

          • MarkOH

            Uh, and that pertains to this discussion how?

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Let me tell you how it pertains to the discussion if you willingly consume meat from animals that have been tortured or you willingly support abortion than you have no business lecturing me on the evils of slavery.

          • MarkOH

            Well, it’s a point. A crazy one, but a point.
            However, once again, if you use the Bible to support discrimination and bigotry against LGBT people, I will continue to point out your hypocrisy.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Oh really just how may i ask am I spreading discrimination do tell? As a straight transgender person myself i would like to ask you why you never see straight people like me flaunting my bedlife all the time and let me tell you i don’t go parading down the street half naked waving feathers around ether. Now in all seriousness please tell me why this is a one sided thing and why you get mad at anyone who disagrees with you even if they are being courteous about it? Just for the record i may not morally approve of gay marriage but if you want to get married don’t let me cramp your style after all what you do in your personal life is none of my business.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Did you know scripture places gluttony with murder and also says all liars will have their part in the lake of fire?

      • frankfan42

        Homofascism is not a made up word, it is real. Here is some proof that it is in use not just by me, although some credit me for coining the term. http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/clarion-call/43398-here-s-why-lgbt-supporters-are-called-homofascists

        • MarkOH

          Wow, you got one thing right. It can be found in Urban Dictionary. However, language DOES change. It grows. Meaning of words even 100 years ago do not mean what they do today.

          • frankfan42

            There you go, we can agree on something.

          • MarkOH

            I agree it’s a word, but I don’t think it means what you think it means.

        • Goten Loves Life and Apples

          Actually its the population control elites that promote the gay lifestyle in order to bring down the worlds population thus its eugenics not homofascism as you like to call it.

          • frankfan42

            That’s certainly part of the issue. Yet there are still those who advocate homosexuality above all other things- the definition of my word. God Bless ya!

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            The ones that advocate the gay lifestyle above all things are less than 0.1% of the population so why get up tight over such a small sector of society when a much bigger branch is engaged in eugenics?

          • frankfan42

            Looks like they all came to Trunews today! In all honesty there is NO shortage of sin to become angry and take action against is there?

          • MarkOH

            Try looking to yourself first, Doug. Thinking that you are somehow superior to others, that you are somehow more pure than others, is one of the biggest transgressions.

    • Emma Duncan

      “and was nailed to a cross and died FOR YOU and for ME. He arose from the grave and ascended to the right hand of god.” Well, as much as I love “The Walking Dead” Your zombie story is a little far fetched. But, I’m a little old to believe in fairy stories, or in Santa, much less your invisible sky daddy who will come back and beat up all those mean non believing bullies who have been giving you all those metaphorical locker room swirlies.

      • frankfan42

        Very colorful vernacular Emma. Still Christ does love you.

    • MarkOH

      You forgot the next portion of this letter.

      Romans 2: 1 – 4:

      You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

      • frankfan42

        Good point! Of course you know Paul was addressing the people in the Corinthian Church because they were fighting amongst themselves and not addressing the very real sins listed in Romans 1 correct?
        As Christians we are still to address sin where we find it, and you came here. I was already here. God is ready for you to repent, and I’ll give you a high five when you do so. As for me I repent when I am convicted of my own sins. The important thing is that we do repent.

        • MarkOH

          It really is sad how blind you are. You love putting yourself superior to others.
          You should really read Luke 18:9 – 14. It’s your story.

          • Diana

            Isaiah spoke of this kind of response: “This is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord: which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you out of the way” (Isaiah 30:9-11).
            When the pure, unadulterated word of the Lord, coming directly from His mouth was heard from Mt. Sinai, didn’t send the people flying to their tents to smash their graven images. It should have stirred their hearts and brought them to their knees. But instead they cried, “No more thunder, fire, shaking. No more audible voice speaking to us. Give us a spokesman who is like us, and let him speak to us. Then we’ll hear and obey.”
            But what will you do in the end?

          • MarkOH

            Diana, as I have already posted, following the Bible’s teaching, you need to be quiet. You have no right to preach to men. Assume your second class status and serve men.

    • Maggie 4NoH8

      Good Lord… I’ve read through all the comments and you and Peter “Porno Pete” LaBarbera are two peas in a pod. I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again – if anyone knows how to get tickets to Porno Pete’s or “frankfan42′s” judgement day, lemme know! I’d love to see *THAT* smackdown!

  • Emma Duncan

    Always fun to watch the homophobes jump up and defend the slimy gay porn obsessed “Porno” Pete, I’m willing to bet that the stuff the found on “Porno” Pete was a nice collection of gay BDSM porno, that he uses as “research” much like his travelling to the various leather fairs around the U.S. in which he ignores straight kinky couples, only to focus his camera on M/M oral sex, to post on his website, complete with the “click to enlarge” option!

    • frankfan42

      Wile reading your comment I was thinking about when Christ saved a woman caught in adultery who the crowd wanted to stone. Christ told whoever was without sin to cast the first stone. He then told her to “Go and sin no more.” The difference here is that the homosexual advocates, homofascists, would snap back at Jesus that their sin was no sin.

      • MarkOH

        And, yet, using the same story, Frank, you’d be the one throwing stones. Think about it.

        • frankfan42

          I threw no stones, nor wish to. I will throw words to convict you of your sin however.

          • Diana

            Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.
            You did what was commanded of you, Doug. Just wipe the dust off your sandals and keep going. That’s what Jesus would tell you to do.

          • MarkOH

            No, Jesus would say “‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.”

          • Ken Faivor

            If you love your neighbor and see him going down a path of destruction, we must sound a warning, but that is all we can do. I don’t see any good coming out of what I saw here today, way too many negative emotions.

            Ecc_5:2 Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thy heart be hasty to utter anything before God; for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.

          • MarkOH

            “I don’t see any good coming out of what I saw here today, way too many negative emotions”
            True. Of course, most of the negative emotions are from those who are homophobic.

          • Diana

            1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

            11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

            12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

            13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

          • MarkOH

            As a woman, what you say to me, a man, is meaningless.

          • Diana

            It is what it is, MarkO. If your so hard-pressed to prove the acceptance of such behavior, then perhaps you might want to find out everything the Lord has to say about such things.

          • MarkOH

            I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

            1 Timothy 2:12

            Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says

            1 Corinthians 14:34

          • frankfan42

            Thank you sister, I have done my duty. I have not backed down from those who advocate sin.

          • MarkOH

            But you do. In almost every post. Stones of lies and judgments. No different than rocks. You claim to be a sinner but accuse others of greater sins than you. Hoping to somehow move to the front of the line?

        • Diana

          Deuteronomy 32:5 They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation.
          6 Do ye thus requite the Lord, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?
          In acquiring your identity in Christ, you’re supposed to rise above the fray. It doesn’t happen overnight. It takes time, but you have to be in Him first and foremost – not just to aspire to be in Christ.

          • MarkOH

            Keep spouting meaningless responses, Diana. Try joining the real world, dealing with real problems and people.

      • Diana

        Proverbs 30:20 Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.
        You mean the adulterous woman who did NOT repent?

        • frankfan42

          Bingo Diana. Bless you.!

        • MarkOH

          I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

          1 Timothy 2:12

          Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says

          1 Corinthians 14:34

    • Diana

      I’m so blessed to say I don’t even know what BDSM stands for. I just feel sooo normal. Praise the Lord.

      • frankfan42

        I always thought S&M was a type of trading stamps.

        • MarkOH

          SURE you did. (wink, wink)

  • Ken Faivor

    Trunews commentary has turned into Jerry springer live, right before my eyes. The Lord won’t let me watch that or this.

    • frankfan42

      LOL. Join the circus man, lot’s of Scripture citing is needed HERE. Actually, are we not to confront the enemy? Or should we let them post their lies and not challenge them? What say you brother?
      12.Luke 15:7
      I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent. Come fishing.

      • Ken Faivor

        Only one scripture comes to mind.

        Rom_12:17 Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in the sight of all men.

        • frankfan42

          Luke 15:7
          I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

        • frankfan42

          Revelation 21:8
          But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

  • frankfan42

    Gotta run, life calls and PS4 controllers need repairs. It has been semi fun. Thank you all for showing your true selves, I may actually use some of your quotations and such since they are so revealing as to your true agendas. Most importantly of all don’t forget Christ loves you, and will always welcome you home if you but renounce your sins.

    • Goten Loves Life and Apples

      What you play PS4? If that’s true just make sure those games don’t brainwash you because God knows what kind of subliminal messages are placed in these new games?

      • frankfan42

        No, I seldom play. My youngest son does. He plays in tournaments. I just do repairs- I am seldom allowed to play. I DO play Mario cart though.

        • Goten Loves Life and Apples

          Mario cart sounds kinda fun nevertheless i would be careful about what you let him play on that particular system you see the graphics will be very high aka it can look very realistic thus could even cause trauma if the wrong games are played. Example war games, grand theft auto, witchcraft and other violent games are very bad for the soul.

          • frankfan42

            Mario cart is a fun video game. We break out the old Nintendo when my other kids come home and we all race. Good clean fun, they often beat me though. You are right about the new graphics on the PS4 they are amazingly realistic. No GTA or witch games though, I watch what he plays

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            I don’t even know why GTA is legal when it promotes criminal activity and worse yet is filled with extreme violence. The same with war games which look more like some military simulation than a teenage video game. Seriously someone is implementing an agenda through these games and the only agenda i can see is a military criminal agenda?

    • John

      You cannot even be satisfied with judging a person, you now say you’re going to judge whole communities based on the words of a few. This and only this is why I would label you a bigot. Even worse, it’s dishonest in the extreme, certainly immoral, and probably even sinful. Repent.

    • Doug Bristow

      I am very proud of you my brother for your steadfastness in your service to THE LORD!

      • frankfan42

        Thank you brother Doug, coming from you that means a GREAT deal to me.

  • Doug Bristow

    Okay. Lets do a survey. Who on this forum wants to be set free from their bondage to sin by God’s son Jesus, the Christ, the one and only begotten son of the one and only true living God?

    • frankfan42

      Count me in Doug.

  • Justin Wayne Jones

    They get what they deserve! Too bad we don’t have these laws in America!

    • Justin Wayne Jones

      p.s. You preach hate you should know exactly what it feels like. Do unto others etc. etc.

  • frankfan42

    This will be my final post on this epic “Post fest” on this issue.
    In my life I have virtually always been the champion to the “Runt of the litter” and those not picked first in gym class. I actually have worked alongside homosexual people for years and consider some friends. So I asked God to show me why this topic of homosexuality is so important. His reply was pretty surprising to me.
    I have spoken with theology professors, and read the Bible. The Bible is pretty clear regarding homosexuality. Still I wondered if there was another layer that perhaps I was not aware of. I have asked homosexual advocates to show me this “New Research” they always purport to have to show that homosexuality per se is not a sin. While I have received plenty of hatred and rage, I have never received an answer. Seminary professors have told me that when one researches the ancient texts the admonition is still there that homosexuality is a sin in their final analysis. So, once again I have to conclude that the sin remains a sin.
    In my private life I believe that what people do in their private lives should be between them, their partners and God. But when folks enter into the public arena to try to convince society at large that their sin is not scarlet, but white and unblemished I, and your, spiritual radar knows that this is just not so. As spiritual beings we are aware that the flesh is corrupt. Only Christ saves us from our sins, cleansing us with his precious blood. I feel compelled to speak out, forcefully and honestly and hope you can find the courage to do so as well.
    Matthew 5:13
    “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

    As the salt of the earth are we not to stand for what we know to be right, to challenge that which we know to be not of God? In Nazi Germany less than 9% of the people were even members of the Nazi party. There are a few left alive to tell the tale of the trains carrying jews to the camps passing by Churches and the sound of the screams and cries penetrated many of the Churches. Did the Christians come out and storm the tracks, stopping the trains? I have never read of this. But I have read of many instances where the Christians turned the other way and sang louder to drown out the screams. Until the one day came when even the screams died away.

    Homosexuality is sin, that remains true, but most are intimidated into “Singing louder” and looking away and not speaking out. If not you then who? If not now when?

    The truth revealed to me is that the thing we fight against is not merely homosexuality, but actually a “Spirit of Reprobation.” Here in the USA we have gone from the spirit of 1776, and freedom, to embracing the cold tyrannical Spirit of Reprobation in a few short years. It is an agenda from satan, as all evil is of course.
    Cold, cruel and selfish it seeks only the good of itself and not the greater good that real Americans have always cherished.

    “If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
    Winston Churchill
    This spirit of reprobation is on clear display here, read the comments and as you do ask who displays the real hatred and blind rage. Thanks to Abby, Diana, Doug, and everyone else who support God unequivocally. Christ still loves you and is ready to accept anyone who desires His Salvation.

    • MarkOH

      While I appreciate your alleged “struggles” with this issue, I doubt it’s sincerity. You sought proof that homosexuality is a sin and found it. We often find what we seek, whether it is true or not.
      You start with a predetermined conclusion, and then are reassured that you are correct. The same can be said of the Nazi’s. They were convinced that Jews were subhuman and worked to convince everyone else. Surprise, Jews were vilified and killed.
      Modern day, you work to convince others that people born with same sex orientation are subhuman. Based on.a few verses of the Bible that has been shown to be wrongly translated. Yet, you make excuses for that very book when it condones slavery, saying that the multiple verses really don’t refer to slavery.
      You are a hypocrite. And, as long as LGBT people in this country, and the world, are fired, denied access to family, tortured, brutalized, and killed for being who God made them, I will call you out. You promote hate and evil in this world. You are as far from the teachings of Jesus as a person can be.
      May God open your heart and your mind this Easter season that you can mend your ways.

      • frankfan42

        You who find your truth within the dung of another has no right to throw stones imho. All your posts and you have shown NOTHING to show that there was any “Incorrect” translations. One would think if it were the case that you would readily share it. Yet another lie from the author of deceit I think. Enjoy your eternity.

        • MarkOH

          My other post is “waiting to be approved” because I included a link. Or, it could be, that this site wants to restrict viewpoints and I will be deleted. No matter.

          Just remember, a words meaning CAN change over time. A good example is the word “gay”. If it were 1900, referring to a man as “gay” has an entirely different meaning than if it were 2014

  • MarkOH

    Actually, that word was not used until 1555 and has several meanings. So, again, a translation of a translation of a translation often results in misinterpretations and incorrect translations.

  • Goten Loves Life and Apples

    Actually i have been through more bullying in my life than you could ever imagine both physical and verbal not to mention several attempts were made upon my life so don’t go implying that i don’t know what bullying is because i do. Secondly I never said anything about holding hands out in public now did i? Christianity may frown on it but you wont hear any complaints from Gokuism :)

    • MarkOH

      So, what do you mean by “flaunting” then?

      • Goten Loves Life and Apples

        I mean introducing things like the Mardi Gras Carnival parade all over the world where today theirs one in nearly every major city. I don’t know who started those erotic carnival parades but all i know is it sets a bad example for our children. Secondly going into churches and disrupting their services. Mind you I’m not a christian but even so it doesn’t mean that you can force everyone to accept that lifestyle. The world is filled with all kinds of religions many of which differ from each other but you can’t force them to change their belief system because that would be dictatorship. The same holds true for religons which shouldn’t try to take away rights from other people aka everyone should mind their own beeswax and let people make up their own minds. Example right wing Christianity is famous for flaunting their beliefs out in public and worse yet trying to impose their beliefs onto everyone else. In other words if you disagree with me i find no problem as long as you leave me at peace okay.

        • MarkOH

          But you specifically used the phrase “straight people like me flaunting my bedlife” indicating that you objected to some sort of “flaunting” by LGBT people. If you mean the Pride parades, you realize they no more truly portray of LGBT than Madi Gras does of straight people?

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Excuse me you cut out one snippet out of what i said to try to prove a point or build a case against my belief system. You can’t just cut out snippets from my sentence and imply that i said something i didn’t.

            “i would like to ask you why you never see straight people like me flaunting my bedlife all the time”

            In my opinion that’s manipulation which i might add is akin to witchcraft.

          • MarkOH

            You are dodging the issue, on purpose. You still will not explain you response.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Okay if you cannot read my sentence for what it means at face value than I’m afraid i can’t and wont waste anymore of my time debating with you!

          • MarkOH

            I’m sorry, but you ramble. You use Gay Pride parades to somehow represent how LGBT flaunt themselves in public. I countered that using a pride parade to represent LGBT is no different than using a Mardi Gras parade to represent all straight people. You continually fail to adequate explain your use of the term “flaunt”.
            And, sorry, but that snippet might have been taking out of a larger paragraph but not out of context.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Yes it was out of context because you tried to make it sound like i said straight people flaunt their bed life when i actually said the exact opposite. Maybe you don’t go parading down the street but many of them do and if you are one percent of the population its a pretty high percentage that do parade around i might add. Now that i said that what exactly do you want me to say anyways? Do you want me to lie to you by saying that God approves of your lifestyle? What is it that you have been trying so hard to get me to say in the past few days?

          • MarkOH

            I’m sorry, perhaps English is not your first language. However, your meaning in your original (and this subsequent posting) is clear – you are a bigot. You stereotype all LGBT based on your own ignorance. As I have posted NUMEROUS times – if you used a STRAIGHT parade like Mardi Gras to represent ALL straight people, everyone would think you are crazy. So, why is OK with you to do the same to LGBT people? Because you are a bigot.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Your so funny if i were a bigoted troll i would have called you all kinds of goofy names in the hopes of getting you into an all out flaming argument with yours truly. But truth be told i have done the exact opposite by trying to make peace with you every chance i get sadly you still insist on calling me a bigot just cause i wont bow to your demands. That’s really what its all about isn’t it and I’m starting to wonder why i seem to recall someone else on this chat site addressing frankfan42 as Mark not all that long ago? Is their any chance that i have stumbled upon a sock puppet account or was it just a coincidence you know one can never tell these days?

          • MarkOH

            And, you play the victim card. You continue to avoid my question, offered peacefully, dancing around the ignorance you spewed, and now you focus on how (allegedly) you have been mistreated. Sorry, it is insincere. I do not make peace with people who insist they are somehow better than others, who continually to, “sweetly”, put down LGBT people, and who remain in their ignorance rather than trying to learn the truth.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            WHY DON’T YOU JUST BUZZ OFF AND LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE YOU SOCK PUPPET EXCUSE FOR A TROLL. I mean seriously putting other people down falsely like that creates bad karma and believe me you don’t want that on your conscience. Another thing your a liar for accusing me of saying i was better than other people cause i never said it now go play your video games and please try to keep your hatred to yourself.

          • MarkOH

            I don’t play video games – another of your mistakes. YOU are the one that compared LGBT to only what you see in Pride parades. YOU claimed to have no problems with them as long as they weren’t “flaunting” it but, continually, to fail to define WHAT you mean by “flaunt”. I am sorry the TRUTH upsets you so much. Perhaps, in the future, you should think more clearly about the HATE you post before posting it.

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            What the heck is LGBT anyways sounds like something i would order at McDonalds? Secondly the only one showing hate here is you and the right wingers on this dang blog.

          • MarkOH

            LGBT stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender. Funny you claim to not know that. Especially since you stated you are a straight transgendered person. Is anything you say true?

          • Goten Loves Life and Apples

            Well to be honest i don’t like having my very real condition thrown in with the lifestyle choices of someone else. I will say this again ((( if you want to get married i don’t care just don’t ask me to tell you its okay with God )))

  • Goten Loves Life and Apples

    Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because everything they did and thought was wicked. Your right part of the reason is they were inhospitable but don’t forget they also worshiped Moloch which involves human sacrifice. They also attacked anyone who went into their city but you can’t say that homosexuality wasn’t one of the sins going on there because it was rampant in those cities. The new testament also says that men will burn in lust towards each other and change the truth of God into a lie. If you were to travel back in time to the ancient world gays with few exceptions never got married thus explains the prostitution in the temple. God never made people gay people make that choice themselves or in some circumstances babies are exposed to gender bending chemicals in the womb and that’s why they are that way. All i can say is if a person is that way they should live like a eunuch and retain their virginity. Its not the physical attraction that’s sinful its what the person willingly chooses to participate in with another man that becomes sin.