NSA whistleblower Bill Binney told Sean Hannity Monday that the intel community routinely spies on American’s without FISA warrants.
(WASHINGTON, DC) NSA surveillance program architect and later whistleblower Bill Binney told Sean Hannity on his radio program Monday that the intelligence community routinely listens in on Americans’ conversations without court ordered FISA warrants.
President Donald Trump accused former President Barack Obama on Twitter Saturday of wiretapping Trump Tower during the election.
“Under executive order one two triple three, they do surveillance of everybody in the United States without warrants and that’s done through various upstream programs Fairview, Stormbrew, Blarney and also in cooperation with other countries in terms of collection worldwide,” said Binney.
“So it’s all done without warrants and that was testified to by Adrian Kinney and David Murfee Faulk, who were transcribing at Fort Gordon George. They were transcribing conversations between U.S. citizens with no warrant at all.”
Binney, who resigned from the NSA in 2001 out of disgust with how the program was being abused, told Hannity, “I will put it this way. The IC is becoming more like the Praetorian Guard. You know, where they’re trying to determine who the emperor is and also influence what the emperor does, so I just think that this is getting out of hand.”
He added, “And I think, you know, President Trump is absolutely right. The intelligence community needs to be revamped.”
“Are you say that every American can be wiretapped against their will without any warning at any point?” Hannity asked.
“No. I’m saying they are,” Binney replied.
Hannity later asked, “And by wiretapping that means what? Recording my phone conversations, taking my emails, my texts?”
Binney responded, “That’s correct and also storing it for mining,” noting that the storage was also under the executive order 12333 section 2 -2.3C. The executive order, Binney explained, is the one President Obama “opened it up to all the other agencies in the intelligence community. Originally it was just restricted. The only ones that had access were NSA CIA and FBI.”
“So was Donald Trump being surveilled even without the FISA court?” Hannity asked.
“That’s correct. And actually…he’s being targeted now. They’re going into the database looking for data on him,” said Binney.